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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    You're in no condition to handle a debate based on this emotional outburst that has no substance. You talk too much about trivialisation, giving off an exaggerated sense of what it represents. Generally speaking, the writer wants the audience to be immersed in the content that's been produced...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    So your 'logic' is: it depends, fiction-wise. If you can't form a hard rule, why claim it's fair reasoning? Your view is arbitrary, and gets more and more questionable with each response. Even if some feel the same as you, that doesn't necessarily mean they'll argue on the same grounds, or...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    Where do you draw the line with your categorisation? For instance, is mis-touching someone worse than beating someone up? What if it's multiple people getting beaten up instead? This is your opportunity to explain your way of thinking. You say it's not only on others, yet anchor your reasoning...
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    Does Mecha Freeza still have the stamina drain?

    Probably not as much as when he packed all that muscle in 100% state, but to an extent. He faced the same issue in Super.
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    How many times more powerful is Baby Vegeta Golden Monkey than SBV2?

    PL difference would come down to interpretation. Tier-wise, SBV2 and his Golden Oozaru state are Multi-Galaxy, but firmly below Universal.
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    You're picking and choosing what you're ok with, and not ok with, when both categories of content can be deemed as a no-no IRL. -- Proving my point about the selectiveness of your argument. When questioned about why you don't feel the same with violence, you hinge on other people being cool...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    You have not pinpointed how my logic is flawed. A challenge for comics or writers that use comedic content is to deliver their material in a way that has humour at the forefront, no matter what the topic they choose is (which they like to have freedom over). Of course, there will be some super...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    If someone finds a joke unpleasant due to the subject, then they're burdened by their morals bleeding into things. Imagine being at a birthday party then getting plagued by the thought of a starving african child not being able to enjoy the cake... A person can feel however they want to feel...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    Violent content was a reasonable comparison within the scope of the discussion because it sheds light on the difference in the state of mind of those that consume it via films and series, as opposed to say: a news piece or explicit documentary. Psychologically, the same applies to perverted...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    On a macro level, the main take-away is that getting a kick out of an entertainment piece does not inherently tie to IRL acceptance. On a micro level, different people may draw personal lines as to their tastes, but should be cautious not to get tangled in their own logic (or end up killing the...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    It seems that you have not recognised the overarching point that was made. In addition, your take on violence suggests that you partake in hive-mind thinking. Where both factors (violence and perverted behaviour) correlate is that they are things that are largely looked down on in society...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    The job of entertainment media is to... entertain. For instance, someone could be stoked to see a bloody fight between two warriors in a film, while never thinking to replicate what they saw IRL. Popular adult cartoons don't shy away from perverted stuff, so it seems that aspect of comedy still...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    Short form content/clips are so embedded in today's media, and Family Guy is super clip-able in that sense. The Simpsons narrative is more closely knit and gradual in its presentation. Circling back to the main talk, I think Roshi's character gave DB more to work with as opposed to if he was...
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    Would you find early DB Roshi's gag as funny?

    Roshi fan. Fairly humorous character. Also vastly tame compared to Family Guy's stuff which is still extremely popular in modern times.
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    Arale vs Zeno

    Although gag characters can be shockingly strong, they're still at the mercy of the writer. Even if the character could manipulate the in-universe writer, that's still technically an avatar of them and such a plot could be rearranged on a whim if desired. The Arale & Beerus confrontation...
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    Gohan (original manga wise) -- well handled character or wasted potential?

    It could be said that Gohan's pacifist mindset was used to thicken the clash of ideals that was present between himself and Cell. Contrary to what Gohan had hoped would occur from his speech, Cell took a dump on his belief and tried to break him. This theme wouldn't be as potent with a random...
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    Gotenks/Goku Power Difference Debate (Spiral-Force vs Kyo)

    Glad that you're satisfied. Debating is something I take seriously each and every time. Thanks to those that liked my posts. Absolutely acknowledged.
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    A Universe full of Androids #17 and #18 (Arc Android) vs Jiren?

    If it's literally just copies of them in the Universe and no one else, Jiren handles. If it's one of the actual DB Universes (e.g. 7), then it'd be a matter of trying to finish them without inconveniencing other people. Also, other strong warriors like Goku would be alarmed and get involved...
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    Gohan (original manga wise) -- well handled character or wasted potential?

    Decent character. Had his moments (His early bouts of rage shook things up in an entertaining way, and Super Saiyan 2 @ Cell Games was cool) Throughout it all, you could tell combat was never his passion, yet still gave us some gems in that domain. In terms of his own pursuits -- i.e...
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    Gotenks/Goku Power Difference Debate (Spiral-Force vs Kyo)

    With how things went, it makes sense that that narrative wasn't pushed. Wise decision on the writers part. Interesting that you dedicated a paragraph as to how you'd deliberately split hairs. For folks that aren't in-the-know, non-SSJ3 Gotenks doesn't hold a candle to Super Buu, so...

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