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    how did freeza...

    It's just the more cautious side of Frieza being brought to the surface there. Despite his arrogance, he did still feel that the Saiyans have bottomless potential.
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    could captain-ginyu's change...

    Don't see why it wouldn't work (as in, the change itself). Of course, Ginyu would have to be incredibly sneaky in attempting to pull it off.
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    Gohan vs Dabra

    Overall, as per Goku's commentary, Dabura > Cell.
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    Gohan vs Dabra

    In pure strength, Gohan was superior, as portrayed by their fight. Dabura still had confidence he can beat Gohan afterwards, but he's not a being that needs to rely on physical aptitude to win a battle.
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    Final Flash vs USSJ Trunks

    Trunks may survive, but he'd be in worse fighting condition than Cell, ultimately.
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    The narrative points towards SBV1 becoming the Saiyan top dog when he first appeared, putting him above what we saw of the previous #1 (SSJ Vegito). Going from SSJ to SSJ3 would give Vegito an 8x boost, as per the SEG multipliers. As for Baby, his presence as SBV1 was short lived and he was...
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    XXX vs XXX

    With no tension whatsoever, a 20x Kaioken should be doable and maintainable. As dominant as SBV2 was over SSJ3 Goku, the gap doesn't need to be close to 20 fold, so Goku ought to win comfortably. SSJ4 Gogeta (Shadow Dragon Saga) runs the DBS manga gauntlet. Scenario 1: His time limit is in...
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    MCU Versus

    I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't call it a disservice. Considering the film was already over 3 hours long, including that character arc would run the risk of being rushed or half-hearted, so it's understandable that it was left out. The Mark 1 suit was quite a tank, but its mobility was...
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    MCU Versus

    Thor, quite clearly. Banner actually made progress by combining his intellect with the Hulk's strength. He also played a very important part in Endgame by using the stones to bring everyone back. Not only did Thor become out of shape, but he practically gave up on who he was until Professor...
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    MCU Versus

    Thanos still ought to take it. He was stated to be the most powerful being in the universe, and if Celestial Quill raised the bar higher than him, there ought to be more than just vague statements of him being a god, which isn't a precise tier of power. To add to that, Thanos was capable of...
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    MCU Versus

    Could go either way, but I'd lean towards Team Iron Man. Everyone (besides Black Panther) was holding back to some extent to avoid killing or severely injuring each other. Thor would hold back too, but Hulk could quite possibly go overboard and fatally wound Team Cap. Ebony Maw vs The Ancient...
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    MCU Versus

    Round 1: Wanda, most likely. Although Strange has many tricks, his fighting style is more suited to restraining the opponent than finishing them decisively. On the other hand, Wanda is a lot more destructive and — when push comes to shove — is even capable of overpowering Vision. Strange could...
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    MCU Versus

    This thread is for versus battles between MCU characters. It is not limited to physical battles only; if you want, you can come up with matches in other aspects (e.g. how one antagonist compares to another in terms of villainy, or how a particular moment compares to another in terms of impact)...
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    Tao Pai Pai and Piccolo Daimao

    Two notable villains that demolished Goku in their first encounters, raised the stakes, and pushed him to seek a greater source of strength in a limited amount of time. Out of the two, which would you say left a bigger imprint of superiority and presence in their initial battles with Goku?
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    Daniel vs Cheng

    The main protagonist of The Karate Kid goes up against the main antagonist of the remake. VS Conditions: - Street fight - Win by knockout or making the opponent surrender - They start 4 metres apart Versions: - Daniel after training for the All Valley Karate Championships - Cheng after...
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    Spopovich's approach

    In the DBZ anime, a flashback is shown of a previous Tenkaichi Budokai in which Mr. Satan casually dodges Spopovich's attacks and knocks him out of the ring with a single kick. Spopo looked agitated from beginning to end. Fast-forward to the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai and he stomps the crap out of...
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    Buu Arc ending thoughts?

    Kid Buu met his demise through the Super Spirit Bomb – a plan that Vegeta came up with as he concluded that the earthlings should take responsibility for the survival of their own planet for a change. Most of the earthlings were sceptical when Vegeta/Goku were trying to reason with them through...
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    The portrayal of Gotenks

    As we all know, Gotenks is often playful, stubborn and cheekily overconfident. Even when the fate of the Earth hung in the balance in the Super Buu fight, he wanted to put on a show and milk it instead of straight up going for the win/kill from the start. Not only was this very risky, but the...
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    Rocky (R3) vs Drago (R4)

    Rocky (R3, trained by Apollo) VS Drago (R4, first appearance) Rules: Standard boxing rules Rounds: 15 (3 mins each, 1 min breaks) Location: The MGM Grand Intel: Both have intel on each other Event: Title Match Will Drago chop Balboa down and become the new world champion, or will Rocky...
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