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How I view it: At the beginning of the movie, Cooler thinks of the idea of Base Goku maybe surpassing Freeza. The level in which Base Goku was weaker than Freeza was only No Hands Freeza. The chain it'd be like this: 4th form Cooler >= Base Goku (Protecting Gohan) >/= No Hands Freeza > FP...

I'm starting to re-edit this list, next comes to Broly & Super Hero.

I disagree with the idea of Goku & Vegeta surpassing Merged Zamasu, especially since Merged Zamasu is someone that doesn't try his best and nothing tell us Goku Black wouldn't be able to perform the same feats. He didn't even think much of SSJB Vegetto, so no reason to believe he ever got...

Yes, they did. Shame that both are the Dyspo main fights in the tournament.

@FeatsofPower So, Kami bring a lower boost than Nail to Piccolo? Something in which I wasn't factoring is in the fact that Piccolo had weight so his power level would be inferior. How could that work with Kami? More precisely: Piccolo = 1 Trunks = ? Goku = ? Vegeta = ? Weighted Kamiccolo = ...

@FeatsofPower What about the possibility of Kienzan being able to help with Krillin's power being relevant or Vegeta factoring in an Gohan's rage boost? Vegeta by himself is too close and they can defeat Freeza altogether. Because if Krillin is 150k that'd be overkill.

@FeatsofPower As of now, I'm thinking on Krillin being at 90k can work, that's the best I can give to him and I was just basing on the V-Jump power levels. I have Kamiccolo 3x stronger than Pre Kamiccolo when both are w/o weights (in a rounded number). I also doesn't like how Piccolo ended up...

I'm starting to think that I was always wrong in the idea of Goku getting over 10x stronger in between the Champa arc and the Hit rematch.. so I guess I gotta have to change my pl list. Although, the levels I did were based on the Daizenshuu and making a whole new list would take a lot of time...

To avoid, getting ran out of images, I'll put this: Goku saves Hit/Gohan saves Freeza:

Dyspo attacking Hit/Dyspo attacking Golden Freeza: Dyspo comes at Hit/Dyspo comes at Freeza: Dyspo pushing back Hit/Dyspo pushing back Golden Freeza: Dyspo almost punch Hit/Dyspo almost bring out of the ring to Freeza: The conversation between Goku & Hit/Gohan & Freeza: Dyspo attacks...

Well. That also depends on whether you think it is referring to Buu Saga SSJ Goku as his strength hadn't been showcased yet. IMO it is just talking about Expected SSJ Goku who Vegeta is expected to defeat: SSJ Broly (M10) = LSSJ Broly (M8) > Expected SSJ Goku = M10 SSJ Goku > Cell Games SSJ...

Well, yeah, TOEI doesn't care about gaps and decide to do what they want. This movie being the prime example.

Kkx3 and Kkx4 at their time also were.

Nah, he is an special case to attend that can't behave himself properly and doesn't get the ideas quite correctly. He also doesn't get most of the messages due to how limited and poor his capability of comprehension is.

Herms sometimes is incoherent in his writing, but equally, I can see your point.

How much better would Goten and Trunks had fared had they been able to perform Fusion? Broly can't use his LSSJ form.

Which gap is bigger? Broly vs Kid Trunks [/SPOILER] Cell vs Vegeta

If I have to select one user, I'll definitely choose @ahill1 the way he drivens in his debates and how he explains his ideas are quite in a good manner always going in depth, even if I don't agree at 100% with him (which is impossible). This without mentioning that he has a lot of patience to...

That's my point. Taking Videl as reference is illogical.

Videl survived Hirudegarn too.