10 most powerful DB characters?

[Classic Adamas]

Including the new shit as well. ^o)

 

[Zippy]

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[SSJ2]

It would be a bunch of GT characters for me.

 

[Zippy]

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[SSJ2]

I don't even think Whis or Beerus would get on my list. I only have Whis at Gold Oozaru Baby at the very best.

 

[Classic Adamas]

What about if you exclude GT? I was thinking something like:

1) Whis.
2) Vados.
3) Beerus.
4) Champa.
5) SSJB Goku.
6) SSJB Vegeta.
7) Golden Freeza.
8) SSJG Goku.
9) SSJ Vegetto.
10) Boohan.

 

[Zippy]

Yeah thats proably better i forgot to add the super charcters that wetent in the movies too.

 

[Emmeth]

There's only so many you can write, because it's not an extended opinion as such.

Whis/Vados should be about even from what I hear. Beerus slightly stronger than Champa too.

Then the Saiyan Gods Goku and Vegeta with their Blueper forms. Golden Freeza in 7th followed by Vegetto, Boohan and Gohan.

That is if we only count one character at a time, otherwise the God forms minus the Blueper form would come ahead of the Z-characters. I also count Vegetto on the list because he's more or less an own character even though he's compressed by two existing characters.


Then there's GT, which I don't even count.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

SS3 Vegito rival SS4 Goku which puts the Gods nearly top GT tier IMO.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Including GT:

#1-Vados
#2-Whis
#3-Beerus
#4-Mysterious U6 Participant (Strongest person Beerus ever fought)
#5-Champa
#6-Golden Freeza
#7-SSB Goku
#8-SSB Vegeta
#9-SS4 Gogeta
#10-Super Yi Xing Long

Not including EoGT Goku due to him being 100% assumptions.

Excluding GT:

#1-8 - Same
#9-Vegetto
#10-Gohan Boo

 

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Manga:

1. Super Vegito.
2. Gohan Buu.
3. Gotenks Buu.
4. Gohan.
5. Buff Buu.
6. SSj3 Gotenks.
7. Super Evil Buu.
8. Kid Buu.
9. SSj3 Goku.
10.

Everything:

1. SSj4 Gogeta.
2. Omega Shenron.
3. SSj4 Goku absorbed energy.
4. Vados.
5. Whis.
6. Beerus.
7. Champa.
8. Mysteries person that Beerus fought.
9. Yi Shenron.
9. Golden Frieza.
10. SSjG Blue Goku + Vegeta.

 

[Classic Adamas]

Manga:

1. Super Vegito.
2. Gohan Buu.
3. Gotenks Buu.
4. Gohan.
5. Buff Buu.
6. SSj3 Gotenks.
7. Super Evil Buu.
8. Kid Buu.
9. SSj3 Goku.
10.

Everything:

1. SSj4 Gogeta.
2. Omega Shenron.
3. SSj4 Goku absorbed energy.
4. Vados.
5. Whis.
6. Beerus.
7. Champa.
8. Mysteries person that Beerus fought.
9. Yi Shenron.
9. Golden Frieza.
10. SSjG Blue Goku + Vegeta.

SSJB > Freeza.

Also, wouldn't SSJ4 Gogeta be much weaker than Beerus and Godku? They came dangerously close to destroying the universe. I don't remember Gogeta doing anything close to that.

 

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SSJB > Freeza.

Also, wouldn't SSJ4 Gogeta be much weaker than Beerus and Godku? They came dangerously close to destroying the universe. I don't remember Gogeta doing anything close to that.

No, Golden Frieza full power and fresh > single SSjGB full power. It wasn't until Gold Frieza's stamina issues kicked in that we saw SSjGB Goku > Golden Frieza. But if you mean Goku + Vegeta teaming up as SSjGB, then yes two SSjGB > Gold Frieza.

Why? Gogeta goofed around for 10 mins and still dismantled Omega Shenron like he was a child. Not to mention, his Big bang KK almost completely destroyed him (Syn Shenron was the surviving dragon and in a weakened condition that a single SSj4 can beat him). Also, don't forget that it took a universal spirit bomb to completely destroy Omega, in which SSj4 Gogeta alone almost did. Also, a universal destruction will alslo mean the end of Goku and Beerus as well as stated by Old Kaioshin.

I have Gogeta, Omega above the God tiers because of scaling, and comparisons made to SSj3 Vegito and SSj4.

 

[Goddess Ultimecia]

Universal Spirit Bomb in the sense that he took some spirit energy from every living thing within the universe, he didn't take the entire universe, condense it into a big ball, and throw it at Omega.

 

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Goku didn't just take some energy. The energy used to kill Kid Buu was taken by earthlings giving much more than a little. Goku said the energy taken from earth and surroundings is not enough, he asked King Kai to reach out for a universal help.

The whole Goku and Beerus being able to destroy the universe, truth of the matter is, it's blown out of proportion. The explanation given by Kaioshin on why future fights are not causing ripples is weak. It's been 20 episodes and I'm still waiting for the universe to be destroyed.

Feats is the only thing that's hurting GT, common logic would say a SSj4 level should easily blow up the earth with a single blast, but GT restrict themselves. Unless people want to keep on using feats in GT as a way to downplay their insane power increases.

 

[Goddess Ultimecia]

Goku didn't just take some energy. The energy used to kill Kid Buu was taken by earthlings giving much more than a little. Goku said the energy taken from earth and surroundings is not enough, he asked King Kai to reach out for a universal help.

And GT takes place about two decades after EoZ, it is fairly possible that the universal population rose dramatically especially considering most of the tyrants got murderlized by Goku. Still doesn't change the fact that the Universal Spirit Bomb in both Z and GT use the same method. It's not the universe packed into a ball, to say it has the power of the universe is unfounded given that we know the nature of the Spirit Bomb, it's the power of every living thing in the universe.

Portion of Power of Every Living Thing in the Universe/=\Universe

The whole Goku and Beerus being able to destroy the universe, truth of the matter is, it's blown out of proportion. The explanation given by Kaioshin on why future fights are not causing ripples is weak. It's been 20 episodes and I'm still waiting for the universe to be destroyed.

Just because it's a weak explanation doesn't mean the feat didn't happen.

Feats is the only thing that's hurting GT, common logic would say a SSj4 level should easily blow up the earth with a single blast, but GT restrict themselves. Unless people want to keep on using feats in GT as a way to downplay their insane power increases.

You're working in the dark then without feats or statements, subject to your own subjective power level lists or gaps. There is no objective constant in GT and that's why it's hurt so much in debates.

 

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You're working in the dark then without feats or statements, subject to your own subjective power level lists or gaps. There is no objective constant in GT and that's why it's hurt so much in debates.

Off course... GT has inconsistent feats such as a SSj4 level cannot destroy earth or getting cut by glass or being impress by a city destruction. Any DBZ feats will outdo any GT feat, does that mean Kid Buu is stronger than Bebi Vegeta because Kid Buu easily destroyed planets and Bebi Vegeta failed to do so? Off course not... no one is going to argue that... why? Because through certain statements claiming certain character are already stronger than so and so and from there you can try to scale. The fact of the matter is 10% of Beerus power is around Rageta kind of makes him a lot weaker, especially when you look at;

Bebei Vegeta v1 was said to be the greatest ki Goku ever felt (excluding super and BoG off course). So that means SBV1 is > SSj3 Vegito (possibly), but at least above SSj Vegito. Now, if you include that Bebi powered even further which makes him more powerful, then later Goku transforming into a SSj4. And furthermore, SSj4 Goku's x10 KK had no effect on Syn Shenron makes SSj4 Goku surpassed limits even more powerful and so on.

Just because it's a weak explanation doesn't mean the feat didn't happen.

Not denying it may happen, but the fact is after many strikes and many claims the universe was going to be destroyed, the end results was the strikes are probably AoE because of the distance and destruction. If it was solely power related, don't you think the moon will be destroyed, planets closer will also vanish? The strikes could be like tidal waves gaining more power afterwards.

 

[Goddess Ultimecia]

Of course... GT has inconsistent feats such as a SSj4 level cannot destroy earth or getting cut by glass or being impress by a city destruction. Any DBZ feats will outdo any GT feat, does that mean Kid Buu is stronger than Bebi Vegeta because Kid Buu easily destroyed planets and Bebi Vegeta failed to do so?

Never suggested that GT is weaker than Z, GT is a progression from Z where powers have been enhanced since then. I'm not arguing Z is stronger based off of feats anyway, you don't need a feat to prove GT is stronger than Z when the characters from Z are in GT, older, and in additional material outside of GT are stated to have continued training (Gohan). And I know you pointed what i just said out, just felt the need to clarify a tad more.

The fact of the matter is 10% of Beerus power is around Rageta kind of makes him a lot weaker, especially when you look at;

Considering that this new material has taken the original material and wiped its ass with it, I don't think you can use Old Z material to back up this claim. On top of this, the rage was stated to cause a mutation, so it's not all just Vegeta' rage. It's Vegeta's rage+the mutation without a god ritual Vegeta is currently around Goku in power with nothing more than a mutation caused by his rage and determination in training.

Bebei Vegeta v1 was said to be the greatest ki Goku ever felt (excluding super and BoG off course). So that means SBV1 is > SSj3 Vegito (possibly), but at least above SSj Vegito. Now, if you include that Bebi powered even further which makes him more powerful, then later Goku transforming into a SSj4. And furthermore, SSj4 Goku's x10 KK had no effect on Syn Shenron makes SSj4 Goku surpassed limits even more powerful and so on.

Again, via powerscaling in even a direct linear fashion, GT still doesn't even end up anywhere near a universal level even if Goku manages to get millions upon millions upon millions of times stronger from the beginning of GT.

Not denying it may happen, but the fact is after many strikes and many claims the universe was going to be destroyed, the end results was the strikes are probably AoE because of the distance and destruction. If it was solely power related, don't you think the moon will be destroyed, planets closer will also vanish? The strikes could be like tidal waves gaining more power afterwards.

'Twas explained that the Nexus point was weak and it gradually grew in strength as it expanded due to Goku or whomever figuring out how to match punches at the exact speed or some shit like that (again, fucky explanation, but it does show that Goku could've let it happen with a universal emptying shockwave.)

 

[Six Trails]

1. Vados
2. Whis
3. Beers
4. Champa
5. Gold Freeza
6. SSGSS Goku / SSGSS Vegeta
7. SSG Goku
8. SS4 Gogeta
9. Super Yi Xing Long
10. SS4 Goku (SL) / SS4 Vegeta

 

[SIAD]

Whereas Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) should be >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Enraged), to fit well Beerus (10%) >> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) >>>>>> > Gogeta SSJ4. I have the following list:

1. Vados or Whis
2. Vados or Whis
3. Beerus
4.- most powerful wrestler Universe 7 is a faced Beerus
5. Champa
6. Golden Freezer
7. Goku SSJB
8. Vegeta SSJB
9. Goku SSJG
10. Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)