10 most powerful DB characters?

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Again, via powerscaling in even a direct linear fashion, GT still doesn't even end up anywhere near a universal level even if Goku manages to get millions upon millions upon millions of times stronger from the beginning of GT.

If you ask people why do they place Whis and Beerus above any GT, they automatically say it's because Goku and Beerus caused those ripples which places them far above anything Omega and Gogeta did.

Obviously... Like I said, Gt feats are inconsistent... just because SSjG and Beerus was shown causing ripples throughout the universe by their punches, doesn't mean SSj4 Gogeta cannot replicate the destruction and isn't on their level.. and yes, through statements and power scaling (even without big multipliers) SSj4 Gogeta and Omega can still be above Whis and Beerus, especially the fact now that in super, saiyans in their base are below Frieza's max. You can't compare super and GT feats, Gold Bebi cannot even destroy earth with a single blast. Vegito from Buu arc is the only constant to compare them.

Let me ask you;

1. How much of a gap do you SSj1 Vegito between Rageta in super?
2. Do you think Vegeta forced Beerus to use 10% of his powers? or do you think Beerus was lying?

Considering that this new material has taken the original material and wiped its ass with it, I don't think you can use Old Z material to back up this claim. On top of this, the rage was stated to cause a mutation, so it's not all just Vegeta' rage. It's Vegeta's rage+the mutation without a god ritual Vegeta is currently around Goku in power with nothing more than a mutation caused by his rage and determination in training.

I wasn't talking about placing them in the same timeline or was i using the statement... I was saying Vegito is the constant and SBV1 already surpassed him. This is why i asked you above, how much of a gap do you have between Vegeta and Vegito? SBV2 and SSj4 Goku has already far surpassed Vegito. How big of a gap do you think Gogeta and Omega has on Vegito?

Especially when considering Toriyama said 6, 10 and 15...

 

[FutureProtagonist]

1. Appule
2. Orlen
3. Tenshinhan (any arc) ~ Serious Cui
4. Spopovitch
5. GT Krillin
6. Freeza (DBZ)
7. Goku (base)
8. Pan
9. Dodoria
10. CG Piccolo

 

[SSJ2]

Spopovitch below Orlen? That's a tough call.

 

[Six Trails]

Spopovitch below Orlen? That's a tough call.

 

[SSJ2]

Spopovitch is the leader of a world renowned religion. If he was weak enough for the right hand man of the Lord to one shot, I don't think they'd be preaching today.

 

[FutureProtagonist]

Spopovitch is the leader of a world renowned religion. If he was weak enough for the right hand man of the Lord to one shot, I don't think they'd be preaching today.

Spopovitch might win if he was LSSJ9001. The fact that the gap is even quantifiable makes him a worthy savior.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

1. Appule
2. Orlen
3. Tenshinhan (any arc) ~ Serious Cui
4. Spopovitch
5. GT Krillin
6. Freeza (DBZ)
7. Goku (base)
8. Pan
9. Dodoria
10. CG Piccolo

Lord Spopovich below these peasants? What blasphemy is this?!

Can't help but notice that Manly Roshi didn't make the cut, despite him proving that pythons = power.

 

[babaGAReeb 2]

Also, don't forget that it took a universal spirit bomb to completely destroy Omega, in which SSj4 Gogeta alone almost did. Also, a universal destruction will alslo mean the end of Goku and Beerus as well as stated by Old Kaioshin.

i am of the same opinion

two ppl of beerus power might be able to destroy the universe if their punches connect unevenly a few times but a universal spirit bomb will destroy the universe all by itself

it takes two beerus's to destroy the universe but GT universal spirit bomb can destroy the universe without any help

hence i have

1. universal super 17
2. universal spirit bomb
3. vados/whis
4. beerus
5. fat beefus
6. gold freeza
7. blue goku/blue vegeta
8. namek shenron
9. gogeta super saiyan 4
10. omega shenron

super 17 is strongest since he can hypothetically absorb a universal spirit bomb and become as strong as the universe

 

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1. Vados
2. Whis
3. Beers
4. Champa
5. Gold Freeza
6. SSGSS Goku / SSGSS Vegeta
7. SSG Goku
8. SS4 Gogeta
9. Super Yi Xing Long
10. SS4 Goku (SL) / SS4 Vegeta

When did you change your opinion?

 

[Six Trails]

Recently.

 

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What piece of evidence changed your mind?

 

[p123]

I'm going to switch it up and go for plain old Dragonball here.

1) Goku
2) Piccolo Jr
3) Kami
4) Mr. Popo
5) Tien
6) King Piccolo
7) Krillen
8.)Yamcha
9) Cyborg Tao Pai Pai
10) Chi Chi

 

[SIAD]

DB:

1.-Goku (TB23)
2. Piccolo (TB23)
3. Kami
4.-Mr. poop
5. Tien (TB23)
6. Krilin (TB23)
7. Yamcha (TB23)
8. Young Piccolo Daimaku
9. Mecha Tao
10.-Chichi (TB23)

DBZ:

1.-Super Vegetto
2. Buuhan
3. Mystic Gohan
4. Gotenks SSJ3
5. Goku SSJ3 (Boo)
6. Kid Buu
7. Boo Gray
8. Mr. Boo
9. SSJ2 Vegeta (Majin Post)
10. Kibitoshin

DBGT:

1. Goku (EoGT)
2. Gogeta SSJ4
3. Omega Yi Xing Long
4. Goku SSJ4 "Beyond the Limits" / Vegeta SSJ4
5. Yi Xing Long
6. Super 17 (Post Kamehameha)
7. If Xing Long
8. San Xing Long
9. Golden Monkey Baby Vegeta
10. Wu Xing Long

DBS:

1. Vados / Whis
2. Beerus
3. Monaca
4. Champa
5. Golden Freezer
6. SSJ7.- Vegeta Goku SSJ Goku SSJ8.-
9. Goku Base (FnF DBS)
10. Vegeta Base (FnF DBS)

 

[Victorious]

Power chains are impossible after Kid Buu saga IMO. Does Super have Goku clear up anything regarding the Beers vs Vegetto or Gogeta debate?And what of the EoZ stuff with base Goku being Kid Buu tier?

 

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Power chains are impossible after Kid Buu saga IMO. Does Super have Goku clear up anything regarding the Beers vs Vegetto or Gogeta debate?And what of the EoZ stuff with base Goku being Kid Buu tier?

No, but it seems super decreased base saiyans to being below Frieza pre God.Post God they seem to be anywhere from Buu to Vegito in base form.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Super really screwed the manga.

 

[Pocket-God]

1. SSJ4 Gogeta
2. Omega Shenron
3. SSJ4 Goku
4. SSJ4 Vegeta
5. Super 17
6. Super Baby Vegeta (golden oozaru)
7. Majuub
8. Vados
9. Whis
10. Beerus

 

[kriss-]

1. Vados
2. Whiss
3. Beerus
4. Champa
5. Golden Frieza
6. Goku SSJG SS
7. Vegeta SSJG SS
8. Vegetto Ssj3
9. Boohan
10. Ultimate Gohan

 

[MissingUTAH]

1. SSJ4 Gogeta
2. Vados
3. Whis
4. Beerus
5. Champa
6. Monaka
7. SSJB Goku
8. SSJB Vegeta
9. Frost
10. Piccolo (Episode 34 Hax)

And before someone says something, no, I don't think GT and Super are in the same timeline. That would be stupid. I know GT is way more canon than Super isn't canon. I do think their powers can be compared, though. IIRC, it was implied that base GT Goku was around as strong as Majin Buu, who exists in both timelines, so we can compare their powers.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

1. Vados
2. Whiss
3. Beerus
4. Champa
5. Golden Frieza
6. Goku SSJG SS
7. Vegeta SSJG SS
8. Vegetto Ssj3
9. Boohan
10. Ultimate Gohan