5th Form Cooler vs SSj Future Trunks (Debut)

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Goku didn't see Mecha Freeza/
.

 

[kriss-]

Trunks gets stomped.

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

You guys are really overrating Coola.

 

[kriss-]

You guys are really overrating Coola.

Or am I under-rating Trunks?

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

If you think Coola is stronger than Namek SSJ Goku, then, quite frankly you are overrating him.

 

[kriss-]

If you think Coola is stronger than Namek SSJ Goku, then, quite frankly you are overrating him.

And what if I think Trunks is only equal to Namek SSj Goku?

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

You are underrating Trunks, since he kicked a stronger Freeza's butt.

 

[kriss-]

You are underrating Trunks, since he kicked a stronger Freeza's butt.

A weakened Freeza.

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

Weakened?

 

[kriss-]

Weakened?
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Freeza: “We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I’ve powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone.”

Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P9.7
Yamcha: “So this guy called ‘Fr…Freeza’ has such terrible…ab…absurdly large ki…?”
Gohan: “This isn’t it…he gets much, much stronger…!”

Bodied.

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

He wasn't fighting at the moment.

 

[kriss-]

He wasn't fighting at the moment.

The statement wasn't contradicted.

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

It was, by Goku(and later Ten and Kami) being impressed at Trunks' feat and power and the overall purpose of Freeza's return.

 

[kriss-]

It was, by Goku(and later Ten and Kami) being impressed at Trunks' feat and power and the overall purpose of Freeza's return.

Please list the statements that explicitly state that Mecha Freeza's battle power increased. As opposed to making a grand assumption of Trunks being capable of defeating Freeza in general, as opposed to him being at full power when he he lost.

Goku SSj (Namek) =/= Trunks SSj (Arrival) > Organic Freeza > Mecha Freeza (Suppressed) =/= Cold

Works and nothing contradicts it.

 

[SSJ2]

The fact that Trunks tells a stronger Freeza and his father to come at him with all they have says enough.

 

[kriss-]

The fact that Trunks tells a stronger Freeza and his father to come at him with all they have says enough.

Nothing infers Freeza powered up.

 

[SSJ2]

Weakened?
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Freeza: “We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I’ve powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone.”

I've powered up isn't good enough for you?

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

Please show evidence, that Gohan was talking about suppression.
There is no such statement about Freeza powering up, but that doesn't matter, because that's not what that statement from Gohan means.
Trunks one-shotting a suppressed Freeza would completely ruin the point of that scene.

There is no Trunks(Arrival), Trunks from the Trunks arc. is the same as the one relevant to the Android arc. SSJs.
The feat of beating a suppressed Freeza would be completely irrelevant in the Android arc., yet it's brought up many times.
Yadrat Goku and Trunks are about even-ish in power, yet Goku in the future timeline could beat both Freeza and Cold fighting together.
Logically, Freeza would definitely go all-out against Goku.
Cold states, that whoever can beat Freeza like that, is the strongest in the universe.If he were suppressed, it wouldn't mean anything.
The list goes on.

 

[kriss-]

Weakened?
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Freeza: “We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I’ve powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone.”

I've powered up isn't good enough for you?

Nope.

It's immediately contradicted when Gohan reads his Ki and recognizes that it's lower then it was on Namek. He was suppressed when he arrived and he was suppressed when he lost, nothing contradicts it.

 

[SSJ2]

I don't get it. If he was suppressed, then clearly he wasn't at his full power yet.