Android #19 (post-Absorptions) vs SSj Future-Trunks (Debut)

[Pakl]

Because Vegeta is stronger.. Also Vegetas gap over 19 is not much bigger... I cant see 20 making Vegeta bleed... He was no match for Piccolo....

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Because Vegeta is stronger.. Also Vegetas gap over 19 is not much bigger... I cant see 20 making Vegeta bleed... He was no match for Piccolo....

Like I said the punch #19 got in wasn't because he somehow was capable of doing that to Vegeta, but because Vegeta let him. #20 was no match for Piccolo, yeah but I think Piccolo's lead-over #20 was probably smaller than Vegeta's over #19.

Vegeta even was able to make #19 run for his life and rip his arm off, even after #19 sucked-out a lot of Vegeta's energy. What does that tell you?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

to make sense of this

at the very least:

vegeta >>> vegeta (post-energy-drain) >> #19 (post absorbing vegeta's energy) >>> #19 (post absorbing goku's energy)

& that's at the very least

now how much does it matter that #19 made vegeta bleed 1 1 1

 

[SSJ2]

Also tired Vegeta can overpower 19 physically by breaking his arms off, but he can't beat 20.

to be fair he did just do a gigantic big-bang attack before when he finished-off #19, so that also should be taken into account probably

I dunno man, Big Bang attack doesn't look to be nearly as draining of an attack as the Gyarikku Ho, and the Gyarikku Ho didn't seem to drain much/if any from Vegeta.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Also tired Vegeta can overpower 19 physically by breaking his arms off, but he can't beat 20.

to be fair he did just do a gigantic big-bang attack before when he finished-off #19, so that also should be taken into account probably

I dunno man, Big Bang attack doesn't look to be nearly as draining of an attack as the Gyarikku Ho, and the Gyarikku Ho didn't seem to drain much/if any from Vegeta.

True, it didn't seem that draining, but there had to be some, I think. Look at Goku for example after the IT KHH, not saying it was to that level, but usually a big attack seems to drain some of your energy at-least.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Also @Zoro, Vegeta only needed to power-down from Super-Saiyan after he fired the Big-Bang attack, which does seem to hint toward a somewhat significant drain.

 

[Pakl]

Because Vegeta is stronger.. Also Vegetas gap over 19 is not much bigger... I cant see 20 making Vegeta bleed... He was no match for Piccolo....

Like I said the punch #19 got in wasn't because he somehow was capable of doing that to Vegeta, but because Vegeta let him. #20 was no match for Piccolo, yeah but I think Piccolo's lead-over #20 was probably smaller than Vegeta's over #19.

Vegeta even was able to make #19 run for his life and rip his arm off, even after #19 sucked-out a lot of Vegeta's energy. What does that tell you?

So what if he let him??? He still made him bleed... 16 punched Semi Perfect Cell and he did not move... Again, 19 is likely 65% of SSjin Vegeta based on that... Piccolo also ripped 20 arm

Piccolo himself is likely 75% of SSjin Vegeta at most and he easily beat 20.... No way 20 is stronger than 19

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Because Vegeta is stronger.. Also Vegetas gap over 19 is not much bigger... I cant see 20 making Vegeta bleed... He was no match for Piccolo....

Like I said the punch #19 got in wasn't because he somehow was capable of doing that to Vegeta, but because Vegeta let him. #20 was no match for Piccolo, yeah but I think Piccolo's lead-over #20 was probably smaller than Vegeta's over #19.

Vegeta even was able to make #19 run for his life and rip his arm off, even after #19 sucked-out a lot of Vegeta's energy. What does that tell you?

So what if he let him??? He still made him bleed... 16 punched Semi Perfect Cell and he did not move... Again, 19 is likely 65% of SSjin Vegeta based on that... Piccolo also ripped 20 arm

Piccolo himself is likely 75% of SSjin Vegeta at most and he easily beat 20.... No way 20 is stronger than 19

ok u know the chain i posted

can u plz show me ur numbers for the scale (if u want to, only) & we see

& being 65% of some1 is nothing to be proud abt 1 1 1