Blasts vs Piccolo

[Power Level Guy]

The Chaozu one was. Chaozu was still in decent shape. To compare that to the Saibaman is crazy.

Chaozu is damaged badly by a half cocked Kamehameha. Are you saying a FP Kamehameha wouldn't have been enough to get the job done?

 

[Papasmurf]

The Chaozu one was. Chaozu was still in decent shape. To compare that to the Saibaman is crazy.

This one is true. Yamcha didn't even charge the Kamehameha against the Saibaman either.

Chaozu is damaged badly by a half cocked Kamehameha. Are you saying a FP Kamehameha wouldn't have been enough to get the job done?

Yamcha's Kamehameha against the Saibaman wasn't FP.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Yamcha's confidence and Vegeta saying he merely let his guard down tells me it wasn't just a skill thing. When Ten proved to be a worthy opponent (as suppressed as he was in the 22nd against him lmao), Yamcha had an internal monologue saying this guy's way stronger than I thought. He thought the Saibaman was nowhere near as tough as they made them out to be and felt he could take more of them even after expending Ki in a Kamehameha. I don't think they were evenly matched there.

I get the confidence is he's suppressed. Is he suppressed?

 

[Papasmurf]

I get the confidence is he's suppressed. Is he suppressed?

I think the initial exchange was more or less a warm up honestly. Yamcha doesn't even look like he broke a sweat after half killing the Saibaman

 

[Power Level Guy]

I think the initial exchange was more or less a warm up honestly. Yamcha doesn't even look like he broke a sweat after half killing the Saibaman

Ok, so you think his power in the fight is his suppresssed power and he has more in the tank?

I mean, that's the only way it makes sense to me.

 

[Papasmurf]

Ok, so you think his power in the fight is his suppresssed power and he has more in the tank?

I mean, that's the only way it makes sense to me.

It was just one panel of them trading blows. I don't think AT was thinking to depict them as equals. You can say Yamcha wasn't going full throttle I guess, considering the damage a barely charged Kamehameha did.

 

[Power Level Guy]

It was just one panel of them trading blows. I don't think AT was thinking to depict them as equals. You can say Yamcha wasn't going full throttle I guess, considering the damage a barely charged Kamehameha did.

Ok. Yeah, it's just a weird segment. Everyone assumes Yamcha is so strong, but when I look at the actual evidence, it's lacking.

But yeah, a quick charge Kamehameha wrecks the Saibaman, the afterimage, the smirk, the confidence.

Having him reasonably ahead is fine, I just want to stress test it.

1,350 seems like a perfect spot for him.

 

[Papasmurf]

I mean just look at this:

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol08/017-BuMr4.jpg

Grandpa Gohan later squarely admits inferiority to Goku and they are both struggling in the warm up fight. Warm up sequences often aren't telltale indications of actual power gaps.

 

[SSJ2]

You are missing a BIIIIG piece of the narrative. Lol.

Gohan is finished.

Something happens.

Gohan starts slamming Goku around.

What he did to start fighting again isn't the point. He's moving around like he's got plenty in the tank. Just because he was lying there waiting to grab Goku's tail doesn't mean he was finished.

Chaozu is damaged badly by a half cocked Kamehameha. Are you saying a FP Kamehameha wouldn't have been enough to get the job done?

Yamcha's looked no different dude. He didn't even name the attack. It has the exact same traits as the uncharged blasts for Piccolo that you keep arguing for.

 

[Power Level Guy]

What he did to start fighting again isn't the point. He's moving around like he's got plenty in the tank. Just because he was lying there waiting to grab Goku's tail doesn't mean he was finished.

When Goku's tail comes off he immediately quits.

Yamcha's looked no different dude. He didn't even name the attack. It has the exact same traits as the uncharged blasts for Piccolo that you keep arguing for.

You think it wasn't amped?

 

[SSJ2]

When Goku's tail comes off he immediately quits.

Because he's not there to win the fight. He was already fulfilled by that point.

You think it wasn't amped?

If it was it was barely amped. He got above the Saibaman and instantly fired it with no charging.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Because he's not there to win the fight. He was already fulfilled by that point.

He couldn't win the fight if he tried. He got hurt and Goku is still raring to go.

If it was it was barely amped. He got above the Saibaman and instantly fired it with no charging.

So a 1,200 blast hurt a Saibaman that badly?

 

[SSJ2]

No dude. Yamcha is like 1300-1350.

 

[Power Level Guy]

No dude. Yamcha is like 1300-1350.

Why doesn't he show it during their scuffle?

 

[SSJ2]

He does, I see a clear advantage pretty well the whole way through.

 

[Power Level Guy]

He does, I see a clear advantage pretty well the whole way through.

Can you show me where. Like the panels? I'm missing it.

 

[SSJ2]

Yamaha punches the Saibaman in the face. Saibaman jumps onto that rock to get away. It tries to take Yamcha by surprise but Yamcha easily evades and fires an uncharged KHH at it. Saibaman is assumed to be dead.

Yamcha: “These monsters aren’t as fearsome as they look.”

 

[Power Level Guy]

Yamcha: “These monsters aren’t as fearsome as they look.”

Ok that's good.

 

[SSJ2]

And again ask yourself how often an equal power fight is over that fast.

 

[Power Level Guy]

And again ask yourself how often an equal power fight is over that fast.

Yeah... Indeed.