Can Boo saga SSJ Goku defeat Full Power Perfect Cell?

ahill1

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2kewl4u said:
He probably didn't bother to sense Vegeta until he got the whopping.

But is sensing something you have to actively do? I always assumed it just happened naturally. For instance, Freeza's chi when he was approaching on Earth grabbed everyone's attention, similarly to how Goku SSJ3 also grabbed everyone's attention in the Kaioshin's realm. I don't think you can just choose not to sense someone.
 

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Cell's Ki sensing is quite lame in general. He does not know Piccolo can wreck him, doesn't know Gohan can wreck him, has no idea of how strong he is post absorbtions... I theorize Freeza and Cold's cells made his ki sensing whacky.
 

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Cell not knowing Vegeta could wreck him is not enough to conclude he can't sense chi, as sometimes the warrior's chi sensing ability is reduced due to PIS. For instance, Perfect Cell also didn't seem to realize he would be screwed by ssj2 kid Gohan merely from sensing his chi, he had to feel on his own body that he was no match for the boy.

Alternatively, you could say that Semi Cell didn't seem to know he was outclassed from the get go due to Vegeta not have been exerting himself, and we know it's sometimes harder to get an accurate reading on the opponent's power when he is just there standing around and not exerting himself, as Vegeta and Nappa on Earth could serve as examples. #16 had a mechanical radar, and if we assume it works like a scouter, it doesn't seem to differentiate someone's standing around chi to their chi when fighting, hence why #16 knew Vegeta could be a respectable power.
 

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I know it's PIS, Ahill. I was trying to justifie it in-universe.

#16 actually seems to work like Ki sensing sometimes. He can't recognize Piccolo after he merges with Kami, like nobody could recognize Piccolo after he merged Nail.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
I know it's PIS, Ahill. I was trying to justifie it in-universe.

#16 actually seems to work like Ki sensing sometimes. He can't recognize Piccolo after he merges with Kami, like nobody could recognize Piccolo after he merged Nail.

In Universe, that might be a good example for why a scouter might be sometimes more accurate than a chi sensing, as the former can give an accurate reading for anyone who isn't actually suppressing themselves, whereas the latter could be hampered by the amount of effort someone is putting, as in, just standing there being as relaxed as possible.
 

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Buu Saga SSJ Goku is only a little stronger than Cell Games SSJ Gohan. FP Cell was hugely above SSJ Gohan. Cell stomps.
 
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