Can someone prove that Gotenks SSJ3 > Gogeta SSJ

[KyuubiAhri]

prove that Gotenks ssj3>Gogeta ssj

If you want to prove otherwise just create a new thread

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

None can't, otherwise they're liars. SSjin Gokhan was implied to be able to beat Bootenks which goes same with SSjin Gogeta.

 

[Pyro]

It can't be proven without a shadow of a doubt for either direction.

 

[Cell]

"SSJ3 Gotenks" = 11 characters.
"SSJ Gogeta" = 9 characters.

11 > 9

...therefore...

SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ Gogeta

 

[Void]

That also confirms SS3 Gotenks > SS3 Gogeta. Looks like the conundrum is over.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Common sense says that Gogeta is stronger. Gogeta and Vegito are stated to be equals.

SSJ3 Goku(full power)>Pure Boo>Super Boo=SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku

SSJ Gogeta>SSJ3 Goku(full power)

SSJ Gogeta>Janemba>Hildegarn>Ultimate Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks

 

[Evil Vegeta]

They're stated to be equals nowhere.

Goku fought Kid Boo at full-power, btw.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Shueisha stated that they were, so that's what it is.

No, SSJ3 Goku was never at full power the entire Boo arc.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Nope. If you're referring to the Daizenshuu, it says the Potara is more powerful. Double check your source.

Nope. He said he was going to fight with his all or it'd over. Your Daizenshuu also says Goku couldn't beat Kid Boo at full-power. Again, check your source.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

The Daizenshuu doesn't say that Vegito is stronger than Gogeta. It just says that the Potara is more powerful. The Dance is stated to be better balanced.

Again, you're making no sense due to bias. He fought with his all by using his strongest form. Goku stated during the fight that he needed to charge ki for a full minute to reach full power. SSJ3 is Goku's full power. He could not use the form's max power without charging ki.

 

[Pyro]

Nope. If you're referring to the Daizenshuu, it says the Potara is more powerful. Double check your source.

He's talking about some page from a guidebook I don't even remember its name...or something.

Nope. He said he was going to fight with his all or it'd over. Your Daizenshuu also says Goku couldn't beat Kid Boo at full-power. Again, check your source.

Nope, he said he'd go all-out. That doesn't mean he'd be at full power. He had to charge up for 2 minutes to achieve full power.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

When has go all-out referred to something that wasn't full-power?

Goku had already fought Kid Boo long enough for us to deduce that he wouldn't still be at full-power by the time Vegeta intervened.

Also, Goku said they'd train so they "wouldn't lose" next time. He's not stronger than Kid Boo. He might've been able to create an attack strong enough to wipe him out, but Kid Boo could've done the same with Vanishing Ball.

The poster adheres to everything the Daizenshuu says, so I'm assuming he'll accept that Goku not being able to defeat Kid Boo at full-power as a fact.

 

[Pyro]

On one hand, there's no reason for there to be two methods of fusion that result in the same caliber fighter.

On the other, Gogeta and Vegetto are stated to be equals by official material.

 

[Cell]

The Daizenshuu doesn't say that Vegito is stronger than Gogeta. It just says that the Potara is more powerful. The Dance is stated to be better balanced.

That same quote with the whole "better balanced" nonsense says Gogeta > Vegetto... so if you're putting them as equals should we chalk that up to your bias?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I'd like to think an "effect greater than Fusion" would mean it's more powerful.

The Daizenshuu straight-up says Potara>Fusion, so "official" explanations on the matter seem to vary.

 

[Pyro]

D6 says Gogeta is the strongest in the universe.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Yeah, no. Sounds like a purposely spiteful interpretation in order to deny the obvious, just like Pure Boo being the strongest Boo is misconstrued as him being above Gohan Boo.

Goku went all out by using his strongest form. He stated himself that he needed to charge up ki for a minute to use the forms max power, therefore his SSJ3 form was never at max strength at any point in the Boo arc let alone against Pure Boo. Period. Doesn't change the fact that Goku's full power is SSJ3, so using SSJ3 at all fits the Daizenshuu entry.

The exact wording of the entry would also be appropriate because even if we went with the "Goku was at max power during the fight despite him stating otherwise" argument, Goku couldn't beat Boo using his max SSJ3 power since he couldn't use it, so the entry still stands regardless.

As far as Gogeta and Vegito is concerned, Potara>Dance power wise isn't a statement of Vegito>Gogeta, so it's moot.

 

[Cell]

As far as Gogeta and Vegito is concerned, Potara>Dance power wise isn't a statement of Vegito>Gogeta, so it's moot.

Please address the fact that the quote you like to reference to defend "Gogeta = Vegetto" actually states "Gogeta > Vegetto".

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

It doesn't say that Gogeta>Vegito in pure power. It just says that Gogeta would win in a fight that's less than 30 minutes. Gogeta's powers are just better than Vegito's. Soul Punisher>Ki sword fits with the entry about Gogeta making the most use of the power granted by the fusees.

 

[Void]

Yeah, no. Sounds like a purposely spiteful interpretation in order to deny the obvious, just like Pure Boo being the strongest Boo is misconstrued as him being above Gohan Boo.

I know you go with Kid Boo > Super, but who the hell is saying Kid Boo > Gohan-Boo?