Do you...?

[Evil Vegeta]

Most people just go with the assumption that Beers lied now.

What's funny is he said the 10% line to himself after knocking Vegeta out. Beers can't even be truthful with himself.

 

[Papasmurf]

"Beerus lied" - solution to 50% of all contradictions in Super 1

 

[kriss-]

There is no reason to disregard Beerus seeing Goku as a strong opponent, despite becoming a god. If Beerus is that much stronger, than we as fans have to work with it.

 

[SSJ2]

No. Bad writing is not our responsibility to deal with.

 

[Papasmurf]

Trying to make sense of something as messy as Super just feels like trying to mop off an unmoppable pile of shit on the ground, really. Like Zoro said, it really shouldn't be our problem if the author himself says in the same time period that he ceased to give a fuck about consistency and they turn on their own statements within months, left and right.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Gohan got one-shotted by a guy who just surpassed the Ginyu Force

 

[Papasmurf]

To be fair he was aided by Sorbet's ray gun logic

 

[SIAD]

I have in the Movies:

Goku SSJG (80%) = 4.8
Goku SSJG = 6
Goku Base (Post God) = 0.108
SSJ Goku (Post God) = 5.4

Vegeta Base (FnF) = 0.148
Vegeta SSJGSSJ = 7.4

Goku Base = 0,15
Goku SSJGSSJ = 7.5

Golden Freezer = 8

Beerus = 10

Whis = 15

I have in DBS:

Goku SSJG (initial) = 153.6
Goku SSJG (Prime Power) = 230.4
Goku SSJG (On Second) = 307.2
Goku SSJG (FP) = 384
Goku Base / SSJ (Post God "momentarily") = 384
Goku Base (Post God) = 0.12
SSJ Goku (Post God) = 6

Goku / Vegeta Base (FnF) = 0.1875
Goku SSJB (Cancelled Against Golden Freezer) = 480
Goku / Vegeta SSJB = 600

Golden Freezer (Deleted) = 588
Golden Freezer = 735

Goku / Vegeta Base (when they meet Champa) = 0.225
Goku / Vegeta SSJB (when they meet Champa) = 720

Goku / Vegeta Base (Universal Tournament) = 0.48
Goku / Vegeta SSJ (Universal Tournament) = 24
Goku / Vegeta SSJB (Universal Tournament) = 1,536
Goku SSJB Kaioken x10 = 15,360

Champa = 22,500

Beerus = 25,000

Whis = 37.500 <

Vados = 38,400 <

Zenoh = 300,000 <

Minimum energy to destroy a Universe in one fell swoop = 383.99999

Universe 7 (DBS) = Observable Universe.

 

[kriss-]

As per usual, you guys don't try to find solutions. An obvious solution is to realize that Toriyama's statement was regarding battle of gods and battle of gods only. Trying to apply the statement to Super will create an inconsistency, but only because YOU'RE the one causing it for an unnecessary reason.

 

[SIAD]

Definitely Movies (BoG and FnF) are an alternative to DBS 2 First Arcos history.