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Jeff Styles said:
2kewl4u said:
Jeff Styles said:
I still uses 6/10/15, but in a different way. I add a zero to 10/15 or a . to 6. I usually goes with the first one though.

SSJG Goku: 6
SSJB Goku (UT): 7.5
SSJBKKx10 Goku: 75
Beerus: 100
Whis: 150
also for the movie???

Why not? It a retcon series afterall.
It was just a question. :cage2 :cage2 :cage2
 

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Jeff Styles said:
I still uses 6/10/15, but in a different way. I add a zero to 10/15 or a . to 6. I usually goes with the first one though.

SSJG Goku: 6
SSJB Goku (UT): 7.5
SSJBKKx10 Goku: 75
Beerus: 100
Whis: 150

Pretty creative... I think I'll use it.
 

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Why would Beerus think Goku was a good opponent if he was 100 to Goku's 6?
 

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Zoro said:
Why would Beerus think Goku was a good opponent if he was 100 to Goku's 6?
I'm not 100% sure, but maybe because up-to that point the only in Universe 7 who could even challenge him somewhat. And because he saw some potential in them.
 

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Zoro said:
Why would Beerus think Goku was a good opponent if he was 100 to Goku's 6?
Because he was the strongest competition up until that point.
 

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Zoro said:
Why would Beerus think Goku was a good opponent if he was 100 to Goku's 6?
Probably from him being more of a potential rival rather than a current one. That, or retcon, since the manga stated that SSB almost rivals the Gods.
 

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I'd rather go with retcon. Beerus having to use like 8% of his power to tool SSJG Goku is garbage.
 

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Goku SSJG (FP) = 6
Goku SSJB (Cancelled against Golden Freezer) = 7.2
Golden Freezer (Deleted) = 8.8
Goku / Vegeta SSJB (vs Golden Freezer) = 9
Golden Freezer = 11
Goku / Vegeta SSJB (Universal Tournament) = 19.2
Goku SSJB Kaioken x10 = 192
Champa = 225
Beerus = 250
Whis = 375 <
Vados = 375 <
 

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Zoro said:
I'd rather go with retcon. Beerus having to use like 8% of his power to tool SSJG Goku is garbage.
so u just don't go by the 6/10/15 scale anymore, at-all???
 

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If we talk about the Movies:
SSJ Goku (Full Power) = 6
Vegeta SSJB = 7.4
Goku SSJB = 7.5
Golden Freezer = 8
Beerus = 10
Whis = 15
 

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2kewl4u said:
Zoro said:
I'd rather go with retcon. Beerus having to use like 8% of his power to tool SSJG Goku is garbage.
so u just don't go by the 6/10/15 scale anymore, at-all???
I have no idea what to go by. I think Goku/Hit have surpassed Beerus, at least temporarily.
 

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If Goku surpassed Beers, I doubt he'd still consider Monaka (in his mind) as the strongest on the U7 team.
 

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Yeah, Champa seems to think the timestopping ability of Hit's would make no difference against him. Even factoring in Hit's fatigue, he was still able to hurt SSJB Vegeta badly when he was suppressed to a level where base Goku could take him once he had knowledge, so it appears Champa still outclasses him by a large amount to think that it would make no difference, despite his time stopping skill growing after the fight.

Even though this contradicts several statements about SSJB being on the level of the gods, from Super it's only to be expected.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
If Goku surpassed Beers, I doubt he'd still consider Monaka (in his mind) as the strongest on the U7 team.
This is a very good point. Although in fairness he doesn't know if Monaka has progressed or not since his last battle with Beerus. I'll accept that point though. It's just odd to me that Beerus would think anything of SSJG Goku, even if he was the strongest guy he's ever fought. You'd think Beerus would have been challenged by someone stronger than like 6% of his power in the past.
 

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Freeza praised Nail of all people who was 3,000 times lower than his full power in fairness.
 

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Yeah, but he didn't act like Nail was a rival to him or anything, lol.
 

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Zoro said:
Evil Vegeta said:
If Goku surpassed Beers, I doubt he'd still consider Monaka (in his mind) as the strongest on the U7 team.
This is a very good point. Although in fairness he doesn't know if Monaka has progressed or not since his last battle with Beerus. I'll accept that point though. It's just odd to me that Beerus would think anything of SSJG Goku, even if he was the strongest guy he's ever fought. You'd think Beerus would have been challenged by someone stronger than like 6% of his power in the past.

I've found the answer to your question:

Dragon Ball Super's scaling is shit. Logic isn't useful here
 

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True, but guys like him and Cell considered Goku a worthy adversary even when they were hiding their full powers and he was struggling to keep up. Combined with DBS's rampant antilogic, the retcon makes about as much sense as anything else.
 

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