Fairy Tail Discussion

[Yoshi]

While I do agree that HxH has doesn't have shit arcs like OP, but OP's best arcs are handled way better to me than HxH IMO.

Can you give me an example?

I've watched Hunter 2011 up to Yorknew City/Phantom Troupe, and honestly, I agree with Alex that none of those Arcs measure up to One Piece's best Arcs like Whitebeard War, CP9, Sabaody, and Alabasta. I'm not denying that Chimera Ant will be above all the rest of the Hunter Arcs however... Hell, it may be comparable to One Piece's better Arcs for all I know. Hunter as a whole though, is overrated, but I'll give it the grace of having good reason to be overrated I suppose.

 

[Kyo]

I'd go Marineford > CP9 > Sabaody >/< Chimera Ant >/< Alabasta > Yorknew > Impel Down or something (Yorknew in the original 1999 anime is superior though)

Problem with Chimera Ant is that the buildup is slow, especially in the anime where things in the first half or so are slowed down to a crawl for some reason. It's as if they slowed down to give Togashi a chance to catch up or something, but like hell that was ever going to happen. Also, while I initially enjoyed the narration in the manga, in the anime (from what little I've seen) it also contributes to pacing issues, though it works at times. Also Meruem getting a super zenkai at the end was a bit much and felt kind of pointless when they pulled the whole "he's been poisoned the whole time" thing. As far as that battle alone went, kind of underwhelming/anticlimactic. Still, overall it's a good arc.

 

[Yoshi]

I would also say Yorknew is a step above Heavens Arena and Hunter Exams. At best I'd place it at Alabasta level, though.

Whitebeard War > CP9 > Sabaody > Alabasta >/~ Yorknew >> Heavens Arena > Hunter Exams

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Chimera Ant=WB War and Yorknew=CP9

 

[Abel]

While I do agree that HxH has doesn't have shit arcs like OP, but OP's best arcs are handled way better to me than HxH IMO.

Can you give me an example?

I've watched Hunter 2011 up to Yorknew City/Phantom Troupe, and honestly, I agree with Alex that none of those Arcs measure up to One Piece's best Arcs like Whitebeard War, CP9, Sabaody, and Alabasta. I'm not denying that Chimera Ant will be above all the rest of the Hunter Arcs however... Hell, it may be comparable to One Piece's better Arcs for all I know. Hunter as a whole though, is overrated, but I'll give it the grace of having good reason to be overrated I suppose.

More like One Piece is the overrated shit. Everyone's talking about it like it's the best anime ever when it's not. The pacing in every arc in One Piece is horrendous. It's the complete opposite to me. Not any of One Piece arcs measure up to the HxH arcs. The pace is horrendous, the villain formula is the same, and even the fighting formula. Luffy fights the strongest, Zoro the second strongest, Sanji the third strongest, etc...

Arcs in HxH are very different. Each arc is different to the one after it, and they're really enjoyable. Yorknew blows any arc in OP out of the water, and the Chimera Ant Arc too.

It's not even close to be overrated. It's heavily underrated. No one talks much about the series compared to Naruto and OP. Naruto is an entire different case.

I'm pretty sure with the new arc in the manga, it's going to blow the entirety of One Piece out of the water. Completely. In all of aspects.

 

[Itachi]

From a writing standpoint I'd have to say HxH. The story is more thrilling and keeps you hooked. The characters are way better too. However One Piece wins in more categories.

• Better world building
  
• Way better power scheme (admirals, yonkou, warlords, etc)
  
• More interesting powers
  
• The author isn't a lazy piece of shit (main point for me)
  
• Better art

 

[Gin]

Thoughts?

Ok nothing...

 

[Yoshi]

One Piece isn't shit. The way Oda plots out the story carefully, and foreshadows and all that is amazing. Sure, One Piece follows the formula, but it's a Shonen... So is Hunter. Who really cares in the end, both are going to have their cliches.

Listen, I wasn't the one that said Hunter was shit either. I think it's good... Ish. And I also said I can see the appeal of Hunter, too.

I also think One Piece is overrated, too, just a little (Hell, I used to be a fanboy)... Just like Hunter. Hunter is moreso, however. That is my opinion, you don't have to agree with it.

The reason I base this opinion is because people criticize things like Part II One Piece (I don't entirely blame them). In Hunter, people don't call it out as much for being overrated.

Also, just because One Piece is more popular, doesn't mean it's more overrated. I've noticed Hunter is more well-received among anime fans than One Piece... That's why I think it's more overrated.

Maybe I should have been more accepting of your opinion on Hunter, but by no means is One Piece shit.

 

[Kyo]

> "It's heavily underrated."

It's really, really not. A few people preferring something else to it doesn't make it underrated at all.

I'd say OP and HxH have comparable writing. HxH arcs feel far more thrown together, for one. OP flows better and tells a more cohesive, better overarching story. It's clear that OP is a lot more/better planned out than HxH. That said, OP has many low points in comparison and the characters don't change nearly as much. HxH also has the advantage of being more atypical. OP is more typical shounen done right, it doesn't stray from the formula as often even if it doesn't necessarily fall into several shounen traps every page.

Also, while the fights in OP (generally) follow a similar formula, Oda's got more creativity up his sleeve than Togashi. The nen concept is interestingly complex but I'm more interested with what people come up with in OP fights as there tends to be more variety. I don't consider the slight formulaic-ness to be much of a flaw because most fights give us something new anyway.

EDIT: Also this thread is about Fairy Tail.

So how many <del>half</del> 90% nekked suits does Erza have now

EDIT 2: Gin, most of us have seen that, probably why we've not commented. But yeah I do think FT borrows from OP a bit too much for its own good.

 

[Abel]

I'm not saying that One Piece is shit and bad. It has it's fair share of problems, a lot more than HxH. It's still in my top 5 or top 10. The only thing that made me nearly drop OP is its pace.. The story and the characters are great, but it's a bit repetitive now. None of these problems are presented in HxH, that's why I'm saying it's a lot better.

 

[Yoshi]

Oh right... I remember you saying it was in your top 10 now.

So yeah, as Kyo said and Gin implied, let's move on. This thread is about FT.

Anyway, I do like seeing fanservice moments of FT on Google, although it can be over the top for a Shonen. That's about it.

 

[Alex Boss]

FT > OP

Cmon now

 

[Yoshi]

FT > OP

Cmon now

I remember Rax saying that all the time on TMF... I haven't seen him in a while, did he get banned or something?

 

[Alex Boss]

FT > OP

Cmon now

I remember Rax saying that all the time on TMF... I haven't seen him in a while, did he get banned or something?

No, he is on a vacation or something.

Man, can you invite him here?

Say FT fanboys are all over the place, he'll come lmao.