FnF in the manga

[GSM123]

Is there any way of knowing how the events of FnF went out in the manga? Toyotaro did skip that part in the manga so is hard to tell. Did it go like the movie? The anime? Are the 3 chapters Toyotaro released canon?

 

[Flame]

I like to think that Goku used Super Saiyan god against Frieza, since he's given access to it pretty early on.

 

[Pyro]

The 3 chapters were a lead-in to the movie, considering it even says you need to see the movie to find out what happens next. It's directly tied to the movie, not the manga itself. That is pure promotional material right there, while the Super manga is its own thing. Toyotaro probably didn't feel like retreading that kind of thing for a third time when he could save a bunch of time skipping over it and letting readers assume what they want.

 

[GSM123]

The 3 chapters were a lead-in to the movie, considering it even says you need to see the movie to find out what happens next. It's directly tied to the movie, not the manga itself. That is pure promotional material right there, while the Super manga is its own thing. Toyotaro probably didn't feel like retreading that kind of thing for a third time when he could save a bunch of time skipping over it and letting readers assume what they want.

Wouldn't the fact that Toyotaro didn't bother to write it again imply it goes the same as on the chapters he wrote?

 

[Pyro]

The 3 chapters were a lead-in to the movie, considering it even says you need to see the movie to find out what happens next. It's directly tied to the movie, not the manga itself. That is pure promotional material right there, while the Super manga is its own thing. Toyotaro probably didn't feel like retreading that kind of thing for a third time when he could save a bunch of time skipping over it and letting readers assume what they want.

Wouldn't the fact that Toyotaro didn't bother to write it again imply it goes the same as on the chapters he wrote?

That's one way to see it. I just don't count it at all. It's not part of the manga, and there's not even a little comment like "hey, go check out what I wrote before to see what happens."

 

[GSM123]

[mention]Pyro[/mention] That's true. I thought on that first chapter after BoGs that shows Goku and Vegeta sparring had a note talking about those chapters, but it only says Goku and Vegeta achieved Blue and they both defeated Freeza. Makes me think they needed to team up. Whis says he was defeated by both Goku and Vegeta when he's explaining stuff to Old Kaioshin too.

[mention]Yamcha[/mention] it's stated by the narrator that they defeated Freeza because they achieved SSJB though.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I don't believe it should've been any different from the manga given how the narrator still stated Whis' time travel was needed. As for the statement of him being defeated by both Goku and Vegeta, that's just what happened in the film. Vegeta defeated Freeza, making him revert from his Golden form and only lost to his cheap tactic, whilst Goku finished him off. I highly doubt they actually teamed up, given the point of them needing to work with expert teamwork was treat as build up to future events that I doubt would be entirely offscreen.

 

[Flame]

@Yamcha it's stated by the narrator that they defeated Freeza because they achieved SSJB though.

No I meant he used it against Final Form Frieza instead of saiyan beyond god.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

No I meant he used it against Final Form Frieza instead of saiyan beyond god.

Saiyan Beyond God definitely doesn't exist beyond the movie continuity, considering every time an opponent is too much for his base form, Goku just relies on his SSJ forms and if that isn't enough, his God forms, plus there's no change in his aura in any of his base fights to suggest otherwise. True form Freeza is only more or less on the level of the SSJs manga-wise, considering he found making Frost wear himself down through fighting the U9 fighters worth doing to defeat him rather than outright oneshotting him.

 

[GSM123]

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[Evil Vegeta]

I believe it happened just like it did in Super. We see Goku come out of nowhere and wipe Freeza out while he was on his knees in front of Vegeta. Since we know Goku wouldn't just up and wipe Freeza out for no reason, I believe it was in response to Whis' rewind.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I think it played exactly just like in the anime but only shorter. With Golden Freeza beats Goku then Vegeta almost destroyed Golden Freeza and with Whis rewinding the time for Goku finishing Freeza for good IMO.

 

[Mystic]

I see no reason to believe it went any different to the manga special.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I see no reason to believe it went any different to the manga special.

I think the FnF manga movie version has a statement that both Goku and Vegeta can beat Beerus if they team up together or something which is a contradiction.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I see no reason to believe it went any different to the manga special.

I think the FnF manga movie version has a statement that both Goku and Vegeta can beat Beerus if they team up together or something which is a contradiction.

It also implies Goku fully absorbed his SSG power into his base form, something that clearly isn't the case in Super's continuity.

 

[Mystic]

Sure, but I mean the main plot is the same.

And screw consistency bruh. This is Dragon Ball.

 

[GSM123]

It also implies Goku fully absorbed his SSG power into his base form, something that clearly isn't the case in Super's continuity.

Didn't you say on your first post that you think it went like the manga though? Or was that a typo?

I wouldn't say that Goku absorbing God power is "Clearly not the case". The manga has given us no info about this so far.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

It also implies Goku fully absorbed his SSG power into his base form, something that clearly isn't the case in Super's continuity.

Didn't you say on your first post that you think it went like the manga though? Or was that a typo?

I wouldn't say that Goku absorbing God power is "Clearly not the case". The manga has given us no info about this so far.

Goku being able to use SSG form in the U6 kinda disproves the idea of him absorbing SSG power in base don't you think?

 

[GSM123]

Doesn't Goku use the form in the Anime at the ToP though?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Doesn't Goku use the form in the Anime at the ToP though?

Yeah but the anime is already fucked up as it is.