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...Goku is SSjin 2 in movie 10, I think you should see this quote.

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That's Akira Toriyama on his notes for chapter 458 which was released on February 15th almost a month before movie 10 was released (TOEI knows Toriyama's plans for the future as he likely wrote the script of at least most of the arc) Not surprising that the note is also in the chapter when Goku and Vegeta transformed into SSjin 2 for the first time.

Here is the link: https://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/chp-458/

Toriyama basically gets consulted to what to do with movie 11. That's the only time he has a note like this regarding a movie. Basically TOEI was helpless because they could not use Goku on Movie 11 due to him not revealing all his forms yet. In movie 10, SSjin 2 and in movie 11, SSjin 3. They already used SSjin 2 Gohan in movie 10. Using Vegeta only is also impossible due to him probably shown using SSjin 2 just as majin and it would be pointless to show him alone so they broke the pattern of the movies and used Goten and Trunks as they had a main role during the time of the late budokai. That also explains why Bio Broli is an exception. Toei can't have SSjin 2 Goku in movie 10 because his SSjin 2 was barely in the manga and the fucking fact he was not even used in movie 10 and 11 is this reason because his new forms still did not exist and they can't go ahead of the anime in terms of strength and serious plot as the fucking director himself already said. I keep a lot of information that would end this ridiculous ignorance and even decided to make a video explaining the movies but it's too much info, I don't know where to start and besides, I don't have the power to still talking to walls when they might still ignore it.
 

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The video doesn't work. Can you repost it?
 

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Super Saiyan said:
The video doesn't work. Can you repost it?

It was a picture

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J-YRXO8te8w
 

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Yes, Pakl, I see your point that Goku had only recently revealed SSj2 in the manga. Unfortunately, it seems you forgot to realize that the Goku in the 2nd Broly movie is the same as Boo arc Goku, meaning he was a SSj2.
 

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Yes, Pakl, I see your point that Goku had only recently revealed SSj2 in the manga. Unfortunately, it seems you forgot to realize that the Goku in the 2nd Broly movie is the same as Boo arc Goku, meaning he was a SSj2.
What do you mean? You are talking about in universe logic. In universe logic, he also has SSjin 3. Movies are alternative universe based on the recent anime episodes. Out of universe logic, Goku had no SSjin 2 by the time movie 10 for released.

That's like saying that when Goku said in GT that Baby Vegeta 2 was the strongest power he had sensed, he must of included Beerus in the statement. Too bad Beerus did not exist, out of universe wise.

Have you even read or understood what I posted. Toriyama's comment on movie 11 is further proof.
 

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Yes, no one used SSJ2 in DBZ. Which means Broly got clapped by 3 SSJ. :troll
 

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Yes, no one used SSJ2 in DBZ. Which means Broly got clapped by 3 SSJ. :troll
Incorrect. He was able to defeat SSjin 2 Teen Gohan. It's true that the ending was terrible but considering the fact Goku told Gohan that he was not using all of his power but was not telling that to Goten, we can Gohan went SSjin 2 in the end. Since it's specifically stated by Goku himself that if Gohan and Goten give everything, they can win, we can conclude that SSjin 2 Gohan and SSjin Goten were the main power that killed Broli with SSjin Goku supporting ki too. The same thing like Gohan vs Cell in the anime.
 

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Incorrect. He was able to defeat SSjin 2 Teen Gohan.
Gohan wasn't using SSJ2.
It's true that the ending was terrible but considering the fact Goku told Gohan that he was not using all of his power but was not telling that to Goten, we can Gohan went SSjin 2 in the end.
Neither Goku, nor Gohan, nor Goten, nor Trunks used SSJ2 in the film.
Since it's specifically stated by Goku himself that if Gohan and Goten give everything, they can win, we can conclude that SSjin 2 Gohan and SSjin Goten were the main power that killed Broli with SSjin Goku supporting ki too. The same thing like Gohan vs Cell in the anime.
And there's no indication that they used SSJ2. Broly got mogged by three SSJ's, dude is a massive jobber.
 

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Gohan wasn't using SSJ2.

Neither Goku, nor Gohan, nor Goten, nor Trunks used SSJ2 in the film.

And there's no indication that they used SSJ2. Broly got mogged by three SSJ's, dude is a massive jobber.
I am not talking about Goku. I am talking about Gohan. He was a SSjin 2 while fighting Broli. You used to be a Broli lover who used to say Broli is stronger than Boo. Are you trolling now?
 

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I am not talking about Goku. I am talking about Gohan. He was a SSjin 2 while fighting Broli. You used to be a Broli lover who used to say Broli is stronger than Boo. Are you trolling now?
Gohan was unquestionably SSJ, not SSJ2.
 
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