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Somehow Freeza was surprised and said "since when did he get so..."
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If he really did turn Super-Saiyan it's even more baffling, since even Goku on Namek before any Zenkai took them out better than he did in the filler.Saiyan Paladin said:Lol I think Goku originally turns Super Saiyan to knock out those Ginyu tools. Toei edited it so he wouldn't reveal Super Saiyan until he fights green man. I'll just say Filler Ginyu force for the hell of it.
Well, Goku on Namek could easily have one-shotted them. In-fact we saw it. Freeza only fought post-Zenkai Goku, yet he was still surprised. What the fack?Future Warrior said:Their probably way stronger than Goku was at Namek, but I have doubts on them being stronger than his Super Saiyan form.
Maybe the Ginyus trained in HellFantastische Hure said:Well, Goku on Namek could easily have one-shotted them. In-fact we saw it. Freeza only fought post-Zenkai Goku, yet he was still surprised. What the fack?Future Warrior said:Their probably way stronger than Goku was at Namek, but I have doubts on them being stronger than his Super Saiyan form.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. Toei probably just haxxed them up. Makes no sense, though.ryan1227 said:Maybe the Ginyus trained in HellFantastische Hure said:Well, Goku on Namek could easily have one-shotted them. In-fact we saw it. Freeza only fought post-Zenkai Goku, yet he was still surprised. What the fack?Future Warrior said:Their probably way stronger than Goku was at Namek, but I have doubts on them being stronger than his Super Saiyan form.![]()
Freeza knew Goku could turn Super-Saiyan yet he send those idiots after Goku?ahill1 said:Freeza is surprised at the fact that Goku base one shotted them, which just implies base Goku on Namek wouldn't be even near to do it. They don't have to be that strong, that is, stronger than Androids saga SSJ Vegeta for istance to warrant such surprise from Freeza. Imperfect Cell (post Ginger Town) stomps.
Also look at the first post maybe, it says Toei originally had Goku turn Super-Saiyan, which'd make sense with Paikuhan's statement later, if so Freeza is surprised at Super-Saiyan Goku owning the Ginyu-Force.ahill1 said:Eeh I don't know, my memory of this filler is just screwed.
That's just mind-boggling. I wonder whether Toei even used their brains whilst making this.ryan1227 said:I suppose one could make the argument that Freeza was expecting Goku to get stronger, which wouled hax the Ginyu Force (and by extension, Freeza) to even higher levels.
Now Freeza's surprise at Goku being stronger than Captain-Ginyu makes sense.ryan1227 said:I suppose one could make the argument that Freeza was expecting Goku to get stronger, which wouled hax the Ginyu Force (and by extension, Freeza) to even higher levels.
@Fantastische Hure Obviously when Ginyu said Goku was at 60,000, he meant to say 60,000,000.![]()
In Anime/Toei universe even Yamcha is Super-Saiyan tier.Future Warrior said:It's just hard to imagine Guldo being able to dominate any Super Saiyan in existence![]()