Gogeta vs Gohan-Boo

[Disasters GoOn]

It's possible that Goku might have been thinking that SSj3 Gogeta is possible to achieve. If that's the case, then Gohan-Boo>=SSj3 Gogeta at the least.

If not, then SSj3 Gogeta likely wins IMO. Weaker than that, however, and Gohan-Boo wins.

 

[ahill1]

Also, I have noticed that certain people who have been debating dbz for a long time seem to be well versed in the old material, but their weakness is that they have trouble incorperating some of the newer stuff into their views.

Experience can also lead to stubbornness.

No doubt. I fit that description perfectly.

More of a power based thing than anything. You don't want to fuse into a form that Boo could one shot before you transform. Also backed up by the fact that Old Kaioshin said that Base will be plenty to handle Boo. So both Old Kaioshin and Goku had power on their mind.

Gotenks is a different case. He cannot transform pre RoSaT. He's simply a different case. possibly because the kids were not as good at using Super Saiyan.

But Goku could transform into SSJ instantly.

Yes and no. It's better to be ready to go at your full power just in case.

But still why he had to ask it to Elder Kaioshin ? Why not turn into SSJ ( just in case ) and kick Bootenks's ass once for all ?

 

[SSJ2]

Keep in mind, Gohan could not even turn Super Saiyan at that point, which further backs up that this question was purely about power.

He asked just to be sure. Like I said, you can't fuck up the last chance at saving the universe.

 

[Lightsworn]

Experience doesn't mean they're the best.

@Lightsworn: The only issue there, is why would he take his word for it? I see no reason for Old Kaioshin to have knowledge of Super Saiyan fusion.

Elder Kaoishin seems to know what Super Saiyan is though and that it's a transformation on top of their base form. Goku also knows that the Potara is different than the fusion dance. So he can conclude that transforming can be different with this method. Gohan was also about to die so Goku probably didn't put much critical thought into it and just took his word for it.

 

[Pakl]

If you aren't willing to read the evidence, then I'll post it short and sweet.

-Goku wants to transform using potara.
-Old Kaioshin says he can do it after merging.
-Goku does not ask any questions.

So my question to you, p123, is why does Goku not ask any questions? Is Old Kaioshin apparently knowledgeable on how Super Saiyan merges work? I would think not. Goku should be saying "We can't transform when using the Metamoran fusion type, are you sure it'll work with potara?"

And even so, who is Old Kaioshin to say that it will work for sure? Seems to me that Goku can already do it with the Metamoran style.

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[SSJ2]

There's a difference between reading a paragraph and reading 10,000 words, son.

 

[Pakl]

So you admit to not read it... Dam it

 

[SSJ2]

Experience doesn't mean they're the best.

@Lightsworn: The only issue there, is why would he take his word for it? I see no reason for Old Kaioshin to have knowledge of Super Saiyan fusion.

Elder Kaoishin seems to know what Super Saiyan is though and that it's a transformation on top of their base form. Goku also knows that the Potara is different than the fusion dance. So he can conclude that transforming can be different with this method. Gohan was also about to die so Goku probably didn't put much critical thought into it and just took his word for it.

He knows of the Super Saiyan form, but how does he know of Super Saiyan fusion? There is a difference there. Yes, transforming can be different with this method, but I don't see how he would know that.

 

[SSJ2]

So you admit to not read it... Dam it

Tbh I thought it was the same post as the one you've been posting since 2012. I'll read it when I have more time.

 

[Pakl]

No its not...

 

[SSJ2]

Okay?

 

[Lightsworn]

Experience doesn't mean they're the best.

@Lightsworn: The only issue there, is why would he take his word for it? I see no reason for Old Kaioshin to have knowledge of Super Saiyan fusion.

Elder Kaoishin seems to know what Super Saiyan is though and that it's a transformation on top of their base form. Goku also knows that the Potara is different than the fusion dance. So he can conclude that transforming can be different with this method. Gohan was also about to die so Goku probably didn't put much critical thought into it and just took his word for it.

He knows of the Super Saiyan form, but how does he know of Super Saiyan fusion? There is a difference there. Yes, transforming can be different with this method, but I don't see how he would know that.

I'm a bit confused here, what do you mean by Super Saiyan fusion?

 

[SSJ2]

Elder Kaoishin seems to know what Super Saiyan is though and that it's a transformation on top of their base form. Goku also knows that the Potara is different than the fusion dance. So he can conclude that transforming can be different with this method. Gohan was also about to die so Goku probably didn't put much critical thought into it and just took his word for it.

He knows of the Super Saiyan form, but how does he know of Super Saiyan fusion? There is a difference there. Yes, transforming can be different with this method, but I don't see how he would know that.

I'm a bit confused here, what do you mean by Super Saiyan fusion?

As in the physics behind Saiyans fusing in Base or Super Saiyan. There is no way that Old Kaioshin knows about this, thus there is no reason for Goku just to take his word for it, time or not.

 

[Lightsworn]

He knows of the Super Saiyan form, but how does he know of Super Saiyan fusion? There is a difference there. Yes, transforming can be different with this method, but I don't see how he would know that.

I'm a bit confused here, what do you mean by Super Saiyan fusion?

As in the physics behind Saiyans fusing in Base or Super Saiyan. There is no way that Old Kaioshin knows about this, thus there is no reason for Goku just to take his word for it, time or not.

I don't think Goku would know about that either. When Goku says "Okay...but..." I interpret it as him doubting him a little bit. Elder Kaioshin seems to be very knowledgeable in certain aspects that we wouldn't expect him to know, so I understand why Goku would take his words without much doubt.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Gogeta loses all.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Gogeta destroy this pink ass jabroni.