Well the Potara are different than the fusion dance so perhaps Goku just assumed that with a completely different style of fusion you could transform into a Super Saiyan without practice. With no knowledge on the Potara he probably didn't want to question him and just took his word for it?Smoker said:If you aren't willing to read the evidence, then I'll post it short and sweet.
-Goku wants to transform using potara.
-Old Kaioshin says he can do it after merging.
-Goku does not ask any questions.
So my question to you, p123, is why does Goku not ask any questions? Is Old Kaioshin apparently knowledgeable on how Super Saiyan merges work? I would think not. Goku should be saying "We can't transform when using the Metamoran fusion type, are you sure it'll work with potara?"
And even so, who is Old Kaioshin to say that it will work for sure? Seems to me that Goku can already do it with the Metamoran style.
He had knowledge of Super Saiyan 4Smoker said:Experience doesn't mean they're the best.
@Lightsworn: The only issue there, is why would he take his word for it? I see no reason for Old Kaioshin to have knowledge of Super Saiyan fusion.
People seem to forget I've been debating for that long too although I don't debate anymore, so they don't give me any praise. It's just p123 and Koshka are so much more elitist than I am that it's easy for people like you to praise them more often. Plus, there are plenty of debaters better than those two... P even said so himself.ahill1 said:I know, but CatouttaHell and P123 are the most experienced guys in Dragon Ball I've ever seen. They discuss this shit since 2009 ... both are on par with all the theories related to Dragon Ball.
But Goku could transform into SSJ instantly.Smoker said:More of a power based thing than anything. You don't want to fuse into a form that Boo could one shot before you transform. Also backed up by the fact that Old Kaioshin said that Base will be plenty to handle Boo. So both Old Kaioshin and Goku had power on their mind.
Gotenks is a different case. He cannot transform pre RoSaT. He's simply a different case. possibly because the kids were not as good at using Super Saiyan.
No doubt. I fit that description perfectly.Southern Gothic said:Also, I have noticed that certain people who have been debating dbz for a long time seem to be well versed in the old material, but their weakness is that they have trouble incorperating some of the newer stuff into their views.
Experience can also lead to stubbornness.
Yes and no. It's better to be ready to go at your full power just in case.ahill1 said:But Goku could transform into SSJ instantly.Smoker said:More of a power based thing than anything. You don't want to fuse into a form that Boo could one shot before you transform. Also backed up by the fact that Old Kaioshin said that Base will be plenty to handle Boo. So both Old Kaioshin and Goku had power on their mind.
Gotenks is a different case. He cannot transform pre RoSaT. He's simply a different case. possibly because the kids were not as good at using Super Saiyan.