Gogeta vs Gohan-Boo

[p123]

This is my debating style and has been for years so fuck off. Why don't you go fuck yourself and do your job faggot? Aren't you supposed to do your fucking job? Scolding me ain't stopping shit bitch GET TO FUCKING WORKKKKKKKK!!!!

 

[SSJ2]

Get to work? How about, get off my fucking site.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

I don't care about conceding. Draging out an argument isn't against the rules. Mention various dick related activities and suggesting them to members is.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Nevermind. Fixed

 

[ahill1]

I don't think anyone should question p123 or CatouttaHell about Dragon Ball. For me they're the mostly knowledgeable person I've ever seen relative a Dragon Ball.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

 

[SSJ2]

Without questioning, where would you get any fun? There would be no debates left.

 

[Lightsworn]

If you aren't willing to read the evidence, then I'll post it short and sweet.

-Goku wants to transform using potara.
-Old Kaioshin says he can do it after merging.
-Goku does not ask any questions.

So my question to you, p123, is why does Goku not ask any questions? Is Old Kaioshin apparently knowledgeable on how Super Saiyan merges work? I would think not. Goku should be saying "We can't transform when using the Metamoran fusion type, are you sure it'll work with potara?"

And even so, who is Old Kaioshin to say that it will work for sure? Seems to me that Goku can already do it with the Metamoran style.

Well the Potara are different than the fusion dance so perhaps Goku just assumed that with a completely different style of fusion you could transform into a Super Saiyan without practice. With no knowledge on the Potara he probably didn't want to question him and just took his word for it?

 

[ahill1]

I know, but CatouttaHell and P123 are the most experienced guys in Dragon Ball I've ever seen. They discuss this shit since 2009 ... both are on par with all the theories related to Dragon Ball.

 

[SSJ2]

Experience doesn't mean they're the best.

@Lightsworn: The only issue there, is why would he take his word for it? I see no reason for Old Kaioshin to have knowledge of Super Saiyan fusion.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Experience doesn't mean they're the best.

@Lightsworn: The only issue there, is why would he take his word for it? I see no reason for Old Kaioshin to have knowledge of Super Saiyan fusion.

He had knowledge of Super Saiyan 4 2

 

[ahill1]

SuperSaiyan Okay, good point. But why Goku had to ask Elder Kaioshin about turn into SSJ or not ? It makes no sense to ask him such a thing.
Why Gotenks did not turn into SSJ against Fat Boo ? Why Piccolo was surprised that Gotenks could turn into SSJ after Rosat ? I don't understand.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

No one is infallible. Just because they were debating and putting forth theories for yrs doesn't mean it supersedes what others have to say. I don't doubt that either understands the ins and outs of the DBZ universe, but this is series where lots of things are entirely subjective.

Well, damn. P got kicked to the next dimension....

 

[SSJ2]

More of a power based thing than anything. You don't want to fuse into a form that Boo could one shot before you transform. Also backed up by the fact that Old Kaioshin said that Base will be plenty to handle Boo. So both Old Kaioshin and Goku had power on their mind.

Gotenks is a different case. He cannot transform pre RoSaT. He's simply a different case. possibly because the kids were not as good at using Super Saiyan.

 

[Yoshi]

I know, but CatouttaHell and P123 are the most experienced guys in Dragon Ball I've ever seen. They discuss this shit since 2009 ... both are on par with all the theories related to Dragon Ball.

People seem to forget I've been debating for that long too although I don't debate anymore, so they don't give me any praise. It's just p123 and Koshka are so much more elitist than I am that it's easy for people like you to praise them more often. Plus, there are plenty of debaters better than those two... P even said so himself.

 

[SSJ2]

COH does not seem elitist to me when he debates. When he was on neo and the newest Shinden, he'd actually listen to what people had to say. He's one of the best I've seen, but that doesn't make him god.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Also, I have noticed that certain people who have been debating dbz for a long time seem to be well versed in the old material, but their weakness is that they have trouble incorperating some of the newer stuff into their views.

Experience can also lead to stubbornness.

 

[ahill1]

More of a power based thing than anything. You don't want to fuse into a form that Boo could one shot before you transform. Also backed up by the fact that Old Kaioshin said that Base will be plenty to handle Boo. So both Old Kaioshin and Goku had power on their mind.

Gotenks is a different case. He cannot transform pre RoSaT. He's simply a different case. possibly because the kids were not as good at using Super Saiyan.

But Goku could transform into SSJ instantly.

 

[Yoshi]

You don't know him like I do. He literally planned on Shinden being a closed off forum for elites despite everyone joining the Shinden bandwagon... Which made him furious.

 

[SSJ2]

Also, I have noticed that certain people who have been debating dbz for a long time seem to be well versed in the old material, but their weakness is that they have trouble incorperating some of the newer stuff into their views.

Experience can also lead to stubbornness.

No doubt. I fit that description perfectly.

More of a power based thing than anything. You don't want to fuse into a form that Boo could one shot before you transform. Also backed up by the fact that Old Kaioshin said that Base will be plenty to handle Boo. So both Old Kaioshin and Goku had power on their mind.

Gotenks is a different case. He cannot transform pre RoSaT. He's simply a different case. possibly because the kids were not as good at using Super Saiyan.

But Goku could transform into SSJ instantly.

Yes and no. It's better to be ready to go at your full power just in case.