Gogeta's Placement

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Time to discuss this one. Where do you guys place Gogeta in the Boo arc?
 

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Stronger than base Super Boo, which is all that's suggested.
 

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Considering:

Goku Ssj3 > Ultimate Gohan > Super Boo > Gotenks SSj3

He's probably too powerful to gauge accurately.

Stronger than Boohan, but to what degree is unknown.
 

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Considering how profoundly weak Goku and Vegeta were (below base Gotenks), I'd obviously be right in estimating his power to be below base Vegetto as a SSJ3.5. Maybe even as a time-paradox Super Saiyan 4.
 

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Tosh said:
Stronger than Boohan, but to what degree is unknown.
Potara is stated to be the only way to beat Gohan Boo.
 

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When Gohan Boo was flying towards Goku and Vegeta.
 

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They didn't have the time to practice fusion, lmao. Of course it won't work.

The implied multiplier for the Potara is less than 10x the product of the sum, so both of these fusions aren't as powerful as they're wanked to be.
 

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Then why was it suggested within Boo's body? Vegeta knows the moves and doesn't need to practice. Plus they could always instant transmission elsewhere and then come right back.
 

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Because they had time to practice inside Boo's body.
 

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Goku suggested fusion with Gohan when Gohan was actually being attacked by Boo, so he seems to think it will be easy to perform, even for someone who never saw the dance. Old Kaioshin tells him it will fail because Boo won't let them do it, but not because Gohan would need to learn it first. Take Vegeta who has actually seen the dance performed. Goku and Vegeta had ample time to perform fusion while Gohan Boo was approaching them, yet the only way that they could beat him was through Potara.
 

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Goku wasn't thinking when he suggested fusion with Gohan, that's why the Old Kai dismissed his idea. Nothing suggests fusion can be performed without practice.

Looking into it any further complicates things as opposed to finding solutions.
 

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Goku was certainly thinking about power when he brought up Gohan, as he stated he knew that Gokhan could win against Gotenks Boo. So we know that even in a dire situation, Goku is referring to how powerful the fusion will become in order to beat Boo. The semantics of his statement to Vegeta literally suggest that there is only one way to take care of Boo, to say that they couldn't teleport elsewhere and perform fusion is contradictory to that statement.
 

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Why wouldn't it work? Gohan is over half of Boohans strength. Even if the Metamoran fusion was an ample increase of 3x the product of the sum, Boohan would get destroyed.

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Goku was considering in using fusion inside Boo's body from the beginning. But Boo siurprised them when he arrived nside his own body.

Using the argument that Goku would perform IT and go elsewhere is simply out of context and not in character, nothing supports it. Clearly Goku was going to practice fusion inside Boo's own body.

If that's not good enough for you, well... I guess nothing will be.
 

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Gohan-Boo states that a metamorian would be no match for him. Which means that Gohan-Boo >> SSj3 Gogeta since Buu already saw a SSj3\ has a SSj3 absorbed.
 

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I have Gogeta between Bootenks and Boohan.

Boohan > Gogeta SSJ3 > Bootenks IMO.
 

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Boohan stated that Vegetto would be no match for him.

Instead of taking statements at face value and looking at the story from a one dimensional point of view -which is completely illogical and redundant, look into the larger context of the story.

I cannot stress how wrong this is.
 

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So a villain is wrong once, and then he is always wrong? How convenient. I'll dismiss everything that a villain says then. Boohan breaks the 4th wall and says "Toriyama is the author of the series" i'll dismiss it because he is a villain and villains are cocky.

I'll take anything that he says unless it's directly contradicted/hinted to be wrong. Which means
Boohan >> SSj3 Gogeta.
 

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No, it just means there is more going on than just 'Oh hey, he stated blah blah blah', personality plays a viable role in determining what a character said and why they said it.
 
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