Gogeta's Placement

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Tosh said:
Boohan stated that Vegetto would be no match for him.

Instead of taking statements at face value and looking at the story from a one dimensional point of view -which is completely illogical and redundant, look into the larger context of the story.

I cannot stress how wrong this is.

Him being stronger than Vegetto was contradicted, while being > Gogeta wasn't.
 

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It sure is by Goku's idea of fusing inside Boo's body. It means that it was still a viable option.
 

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Tosh said:
Why wouldn't it work? Gohan is over half of Boohans strength. Even if the Metamoran fusion was an ample increase of 3x the product of the sum, Boohan would get destroyed.

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Goku was considering in using fusion inside Boo's body from the beginning. But Boo siurprised them when he arrived nside his own body.

Using the argument that Goku would perform IT and go elsewhere is simply out of context and not in character, nothing supports it. Clearly Goku was going to practice fusion inside Boo's own body.

If that's not good enough for you, well... I guess nothing will be.
Gohan has to suppress himself down to Goku's level in order to fuse, so that greatly effects the power of the fusion. Goku wanted to use potara when Boo appeared within the body first if I recall correctly.

Saying it is out of character is out of universe. In universe, there were other ways to beat Boo if Gogeta is supposedly stronger than Gohan Boo.
 

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Or Goku can use Super Saiyan 3.

Goku clearly intended to perform fusion inside Boo's body when he learned that it worked inside his body, unlike the Potara.

So I'll stick with that.
 

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Personality is still irrelevant to determine whether someone is lying or not, even if the mentioned 'someone' lied 1000 times. There's that moment where someone has to say the truth, and that's when everyone will dismiss it just because he lied before.


Saiyan Saga Vegeta said that he was suppressing his blasts against Goku - Dismiss that?
Freeza said that he probably was capable of taking down Goku in Trunks Saga - Dismiss that?
Cell said that he powered up like Gohan - Dismiss that?

That's my point lol
 

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Goku intended to use fusion inside Boohan's body, it's a relevant option.

Boohan's statement is unreliable by virtue of his personality.

That's why your theory doesn't work at all and never, ever will.
 

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He never intended on it because he was mad about the potara being broken.
 

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He did in the scan I showed, he begins to orchestrate the idea once he learns that it works.
 

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Ignoring my post won't do any good, tosh.
Also, post the quote.
 

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I didn't ignore it. I could barely understand it, the context and grammar made it undecipherable.
 

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Calculations are irrelevant and entirely subjective.

As long as 'fighter A' is stronger than 'fighter B', that's all that should matter.
 

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SSj Gogeta > SSj Gotenks
IMO.

SSj3 Gogeta > SSj3 Gotenks > SSj2 Gogeta > SSj2 Gotenks > SSj Gogeta > SSj Gotenks.
 

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Given that the potora itself is not inherently what made vegetto so strong, but the fusion of goku and vegeta, I've never seen why Gogeta isn't almost as strong vegetto.

Gohan-Boo states that a metamorian would be no match for him. Which means that Gohan-Boo >> SSj3 Gogeta since Buu already saw a SSj3\ has a SSj3 absorbed.

Buu states that fusion would be no match for him, but no one knew about the rival boost. And he doesn't have nearly the knowledge of fusion goku does having only seen it once where as goku believed it would work.
 

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With or without a rivals boost Vegetto's power would be greater than Gogeta's by the power difference between a Potara Fusion and a run of the mill dance fusion. Which isn't implied to be a small difference.
 

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I have Gogeta being one-shot bait to any form of Super Buu, but Base Super Buu.

I'd have these kind of pls:

Super Buu(base) - 384
SSj3 Gotenks - 384
SSj3 Gogeta - 492(1.33x stronger, not enough to stomp but still comfortably ahead of both)
Gotenks-Buu/Buutenks - 960
Gohan-Buu - 1,536

That's what i have.
 
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