Goku Black (Base)> ssj Blue Vegeta

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Goku is concerned of what is to come after that ki blast was shot to make Goku Black aware of their presence.

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Vegeta is seen smiling. Not @ all worried in the slightest.

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Goku Black expression after seeing ssj Blue from Vegeta. Vegeta claims he will kill Goku Black with this form.


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Goku Black kicking Vegeta away like nothing. Vegeta is unable to counter or ever see this movement @ all.
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Still. Goku Black is somewhat impressed of ssj Blue Vegeta attempt & proceeds to show everyone his ssj Rose form because why not. Notice that he isn't even hurt or injured in the slightest. lol

There's more context more in favour of Goku Black (Base)>ssj Blue Vegeta, but Idthink it should be necessary as it is obv. lol
 

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SSJR Black also seems surprised when his punch was blocked and says his fight with Vegeta made his SSJR even stronger, so I think Vegeta just not going all out until the end makes sense. SSJR Black was also not overwhelmingly more powerful than SSJB either since Trunks initially thought they were even.
 

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So?

Current Black (base) > SSJ2 Goku => Pre-Goku fight Black (base)
 

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Trunks said that Black in the future was stronger than what he showed against Galu, so he'd be stronger than SSJ2 imo. Not that that means much.
 

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Papasmurf said:
SSJR Black also seems surprised when his punch was blocked and says his fight with Vegeta made his SSJR even stronger, so I think Vegeta just not going all out until the end makes sense. SSJR Black was also not overwhelmingly more powerful than SSJB either since Trunks initially thought they were even.
I'm sure that it was an emotional boost or something similar to what Vegeta did to Beerus when he was enraged. Just tapping into that reserve ki which made ssj Rose Goku Black stronger for it. lol


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Goku still think that they have a chance against Black before SSGR.
Yeah. He still has the button or even fusion. You are right. lo

Raptorex said:
Vegeta wasn't going all out till the end end :sure
Sure. He got an emotional boost. Vegeta gets that. What else is new. lol
 

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Fearless Saiyajin said:
Goku still think that they have a chance against Black before SSGR.
Yeah. He still has the button or even fusion. You are right. lo[/quote]
Fusion is irrelevant in Super lol.
 

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Fearless Saiyajin said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
Goku still think that they have a chance against Black before SSGR.
Yeah. He still has the button or even fusion. You are right. lo
Fusion is irrelevant in Super lol.[/quote]
100%ssj Blue Vegeta>100% Base Goku Black is not viable & it contradicts. Goku Black (Black)doesn't even look like he couldn't handle anything that Vegeta threw @ him. And it is shown that when ssj Rose Goku Black hit was blocked, his aura disappeared & he looked exactly like ssj Blue Vegeta when he picked up Trunks by his shirt. So he was powered down, which would imply thst Goku Black still hasn't mastered Rose Form. So his power fluctuates sometimes, who knows. But once he gained his composure, he easily disposed of ssj Blue Vegeta. lol
 

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Squall Strife said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
Goku still think that they have a chance against Black before SSGR.
Yeah. He still has the button or even fusion. You are right. lo
Fusion is irrelevant in Super lol.
100%ssj Blue Vegeta>100% Base Goku Black is not viable & it contradicts. Goku Black (Black)doesn't even look like he couldn't handle anything that Vegeta threw @ him. And it is shown that when ssj Rose Goku Black hit was blocked, his aura disappeared & he looked exactly like ssj Blue Vegeta when he picked up Trunks by his shirt. So he was powered down, which would imply thst Goku Black still hasn't mastered Rose Form. So his power fluctuates sometimes, who knows. But once he gained his composure, he easily disposed of ssj Blue Vegeta. lol[/quote]
It's early to speculate his form and all we know that form is unreachable. Goku think that he and Vegeta can take Black.
 

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Fearless Saiyajin said:
Squall Strife said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
Yeah. He still has the button or even fusion. You are right. lo
Fusion is irrelevant in Super lol.
100%ssj Blue Vegeta>100% Base Goku Black is not viable & it contradicts. Goku Black (Black)doesn't even look like he couldn't handle anything that Vegeta threw @ him. And it is shown that when ssj Rose Goku Black hit was blocked, his aura disappeared & he looked exactly like ssj Blue Vegeta when he picked up Trunks by his shirt. So he was powered down, which would imply thst Goku Black still hasn't mastered Rose Form. So his power fluctuates sometimes, who knows. But once he gained his composure, he easily disposed of ssj Blue Vegeta. lol
It's early to speculate his form and all we know that form is unreachable. Goku think that he and Vegeta can take Black.[/quote]
But it's shown. :0 lol


Where does Goku say that. I forget because I was too busy watching Goku Black beat everyone. xD lol
 

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Squall Strife said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
Squall Strife said:
Fusion is irrelevant in Super lol.
100%ssj Blue Vegeta>100% Base Goku Black is not viable & it contradicts. Goku Black (Black)doesn't even look like he couldn't handle anything that Vegeta threw @ him. And it is shown that when ssj Rose Goku Black hit was blocked, his aura disappeared & he looked exactly like ssj Blue Vegeta when he picked up Trunks by his shirt. So he was powered down, which would imply thst Goku Black still hasn't mastered Rose Form. So his power fluctuates sometimes, who knows. But once he gained his composure, he easily disposed of ssj Blue Vegeta. lol
It's early to speculate his form and all we know that form is unreachable. Goku think that he and Vegeta can take Black.
But it's shown. :0 lol


Where does Goku say that. I forget because I was too busy watching Goku Black beat everyone. xD lol[/quote]
His SSR is definitely > SSJB but not his base form.
 

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Raptorex said:
His aura came back during his beatdown from Vegeta anyway
Which would imply his boost for ssj Rose form went back up. So that implies he hasn't mastered ssj Rose yet, so the example when Goku Black ssj Rose hit Vegeta & Vegeta blocked it can't be used. Because @ that time, he was powered down by alot. lol
 

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Fearless Saiyajin said:
You're just assuming something that isn't stated nor implied.
So ssj Blue Vegeta was only strong enough to hold Trunks up by shirt & not tear it. Goku Black had no aura just like ssj Blue Vegeta. So it's shown & implied. lol
 

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Squall Strife said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
You're just assuming something that isn't stated nor implied.
So ssj Blue Vegeta was only strong enough to hold Trunks up by shirt & not tear it. Goku Black had no aura just like ssj Blue Vegeta. So it's shown & implied. lol
That was just for 1 sec and that's it. Nothing implies anything that you wanted here. Your example pretty much implied that Vegeta was just holding back.
 

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