GT SSJ multiplier

[ahill1]

I know you guys generally go by a far less multiplier than 50x, like 2x or so, due to Rild's line of Goku not even using half of his power up until that point, but it's not implied to be 50x by the GT perfect files?

The transformation which Son Goku displayed in his battle with Freeza on Planet Namek was “Super Saiyan 1”!! Proposed conditions for the transformation include such points as “intense anger or sorrow”, “high battle power”, “a gentle heart”, and “a dangerous situation”. The main external features are an aura and golden hair on one’s head which stands straight up, and after the transformation one’s battle power increases remarkably!! One theory is that it becomes as much as 50 times what it is normally!! There’s also types like Grade Two, which raises power and speed through ki, and Grade Three, which relies too much on power!!

 

[Future Warrior]

Wow, I never knew that line was in there.

 

[Six Trails]

"One theory" doesn't really sound like it's something they're advocating for. If they really wanted it to be 50x, I think that'd it make more sense for them to flat-out state it.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Even the Perfect-Files see it only as a theory.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Anime is canon and the GT Perfect files. :1down

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

Why wouldn't it be fifty times? I didn't think anyone here bought into the Decreasing Multiplier Theory, and there's no other reason why it would be lower.

 

[ahill1]

Why wouldn't it be fifty times? I didn't think anyone here bought into the Decreasing Multiplier Theory, and there's no other reason why it would be lower.

That fits better with Goku surpassing his SSJ power just in base in the first arc of Super. There's also Rild statement, which says he figured Goku wasn't even using half of his power after this latter going SSJ.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Why wouldn't it be fifty times? I didn't think anyone here bought into the Decreasing Multiplier Theory, and there's no other reason why it would be lower.

It is greatly implied by Rild's line that SSj probably isn't even a 3x boost in GT. Other than that, we have Gohan, who kept up with his training, being able to use SSj on top of his Ultimate state, yet still being weaker than Base Goku. Without reducing multipliers, that puts Base Goku over 50 times stronger than Ultimate Gohan, which is impossible due to the implications that even as a SSj3 Baby arc Goku was weaker than SSj Vegetto.

 

[SSJ2]

50x is simply impossible in GT given the Rild line, and the puny increases it granted Goku. Check out Goku vs Lood and come back to me telling me it's 50x, I'll ban your ass.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Why wouldn't it be fifty times? I didn't think anyone here bought into the Decreasing Multiplier Theory, and there's no other reason why it would be lower.

There is but I'll post it later.

 

[Pyro]

50x could work if not for Vegeta-Baby > SSj3 Goku. That throws out the whole thing because there's no way SSj Vegetto is 400x+ stronger than Gohan-Boo.

 

[Tapion]

"One theory" nuff' said.
Though, to be fair, it's not a theory(out of GT), it's a fact, due to WOG

 

[Pocket-God]

Maybe we should just assume they meant Baby Vegeta 1 > SSJ3 Vegito. Just like everyone does with Suppressed Beerus
That way Base Goku could be equal to Buuhan and still have x400 for his SSJ3

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Maybe we should just assume they meant Baby Vegeta 1 > SSJ3 Vegito. Just like everyone does with Suppressed Beerus
That way Base Goku could be equal to Buuhan and still have x400 for his SSJ3

Goku never felt SSjin3 Vegito.

 

[Papasmurf]

If we're to assume he's not even referring to his own ki as Vegetto, then SBV1 might not even have reached SSJ1 Vegetto. The highest he felt aside from that is (anime) Pure Boo and enraged Gohan-Boo

 

[Papasmurf]

If we're to assume he's not even referring to his own ki as Vegetto, then SBV1 might not even have reached SSJ1 Vegetto. The highest he felt aside from that is (anime) Pure Boo and enraged Gohan-Boo

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

If we're to assume he's not even referring to his own ki as Vegetto, then SBV1 might not even have reached SSJ1 Vegetto. The highest he felt aside from that is (anime) Pure Boo and enraged Gohan-Boo

Perhaps, Vegito is just that damn strong!

 

[Papasmurf]

Vegetto > SSJ4s according to Toei themselves. And since SSJ2 and SSJ3 Vegetto were unseen....

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Vegetto > SSJ4s according to Toei themselves. And since SSJ2 and SSJ3 Vegetto were unseen....

When and where? dawg

 

[Papasmurf]

From the GT TV special animation comic I believe