How does Future Dabura compare to Present Dabura?

[Animelover5487]

We know Future Trunks's timeline is 17 years further than ours so Dabura and Babidi didn't come to the Earth until much later in Trunks's timeline, would this timeline change effect Dabura's power level, like it did 17 and 18's or is he at exactly the same level we see him at in the main timeline?

 

[Future Warrior]

Dabura doesn't look like the type of guy that trains much. He's slightly stronger than he was during the Boo arc at best imo.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah I don't think he trained.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

They're both the same.

 

[Jerk Store]

Yeah, the same.... I highly doubt Toriyama or Toei had any strength differences in mind, and nothing suggests otherwise. Dabura is ssj2 tier in both timelines, no need to complicate bullshit further by saying one was stronger than the other. Unless said in the series, just a waste of time.

 

[theallpowerfulpuipui]

Future Dabura is weaker because those dang future Androids are weaker.

Trunks comes from a weak, brittle, and stupid future, like Divergent.

 

[SSJ2]

Probably equal at best.

 

[Jeff Styles]

Maybe at the same level. Dabura doesn't seems to fight much unless he have to, like when Pui Pui and Yakon are defeated. I don't think he trains much or at all.

 

[Warmmedown]

Thought Toriyama had actually used Future Dabura in Super when I saw this topic. I now greatly appreciate that he's not that fucking lazy. All hail AT.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I doubt any of Toei's writers, Toyotaro or Toriyama care enough to have there be any difference in his strength, so equal.

 

[Flame]

Spoilers for Chapter 15:

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He has to be stronger because of Future Trunks's performance against Goku. Goku says that Trunks is stronger than what Gohan was during the Cell Games. Super Saiyan Gohan fought about even with Dabura, this was a Gohan who was much weaker than his Cell Games self. Future Trunks was seen to be struggling in his fight against Dabura and barely winning. Future Dabura has to be stronger than Present Dabura.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Spoilers for Chapter 15:

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He has to be stronger because of Future Trunks's performance against Goku. Goku says that Trunks is stronger than what Gohan was during the Cell Games. Super Saiyan Gohan fought about even with Dabura, this was a Gohan who was much weaker than his Cell Games self. Future Trunks was seen to be struggling in his fight against Dabura and barely winning. Future Dabura has to be stronger than Present Dabura.

But there's a long period of time between Dabura's death and Black's arrival.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Same as Fearless said. The gap in time is enough for Trunks to go from SSJ Boo Arc Gohan tier to being relevant in DBS, especially if you take into account the anime suggests he encountered Black several times, which could easily lead to massive Zenkais.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah, Trunks could have simply not trained hard enough to improve drastically after killing Cell until facing Dabra, then got his hands on some good ol' DB Super hax that Piccolo found before the U6 arc. Especially now that his manga version has been confirmed to be ~ SSJ3 Goku.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yeah, Trunks could have simply not trained hard enough to improve drastically after killing Cell until facing Dabra, then got his hands on some good ol' DB Super hax that Piccolo found before the U6 arc. Especially now that his manga version has been confirmed to be ~ SSJ3 Goku.

Piccolo from Trunks Arc to Android Arc was hax too.

 

[Papasmurf]

But even the 100x hax on the Kaio planet doesn't really compare to weaker than Shisami/Tagoma/Ginyu to stronger than post-rosat god base Galu, no?

 

[Animelover5487]

Same as Fearless said. The gap in time is enough for Trunks to go from SSJ Boo Arc Gohan tier to being relevant in DBS, especially if you take into account the anime suggests he encountered Black several times, which could easily lead to massive Zenkais.

Zenkais? Are those still a thing? We haven't seen anyone get stronger via Zenkais since the Namek saga.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Same as Fearless said. The gap in time is enough for Trunks to go from SSJ Boo Arc Gohan tier to being relevant in DBS, especially if you take into account the anime suggests he encountered Black several times, which could easily lead to massive Zenkais.

Zenkais? Are those still a thing? We haven't seen anyone get stronger via Zenkais since the Namek saga.

Cell

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Zenkais? Are those still a thing? We haven't seen anyone get stronger via Zenkais since the Namek saga.

As long as the plot demands it. It makes a lot of sense compared to Piccolo's gains by the time of the U6 Arc, anyway.

 

[Animelover5487]

Same as Fearless said. The gap in time is enough for Trunks to go from SSJ Boo Arc Gohan tier to being relevant in DBS, especially if you take into account the anime suggests he encountered Black several times, which could easily lead to massive Zenkais.

Zenkais? Are those still a thing? We haven't seen anyone get stronger via Zenkais since the Namek saga.

Cell

Cell isn't technically a Saiyan.....