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How high are they?
In my opinion, they are God-Level.
In my opinion, they are God-Level.
Fearless Saiyajin said:Boohan: 1
Base Vegito 1
SSJ Vegito: 50
SSJ2 Vegito 100
SSJ3 Vegito: 400
1st form Freeza: 1.5
Final Form: 397.5
Base Goku/Vegeta: 410
SSJ Goku/Vegeta: 20,500
SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta: 41,000
SSJ3 Goku: 164,000
Base Future Trunks: 350
SSJ Trunks: 17,500
SSJ2 Trunks: 35,000
Present Zamasu: 25,000
Basically, SSJ2 Goku is in a G.O.D tier.
Freeza was a huge threat to the Earth and SSJ Gohan can't do anything about it.Animelover5487 said:Base Saiyans are between Boohan and Super Vegetto imo. However Super Saiyan and beyond would one-shot SSJ3 Vegetto.
Fearless Saiyajin said:Boohan: 1
Base Vegito 1
SSJ Vegito: 50
SSJ2 Vegito 100
SSJ3 Vegito: 400
1st form Freeza: 1.5
Final Form: 397.5
Base Goku/Vegeta: 410
SSJ Goku/Vegeta: 20,500
SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta: 41,000
SSJ3 Goku: 164,000
Base Future Trunks: 350
SSJ Trunks: 17,500
SSJ2 Trunks: 35,000
Present Zamasu: 25,000
Basically, SSJ2 Goku is in a G.O.D tier.
If First Form Freeza > Boohan then why did Freeza go straight to his final form to fight Goku when he only knew Goku was stronger than Boo?
But then Gohan becoming Super-Saiyan was treated as a bigger deal. I'm not sure on the matter, either though.Animelover5487 said:Gohan is so much weaker at this point that he nearly kills himself powering up as a SSJ, so yeah that doesn't mean he can take out Boohan who was much stronger than Gohan even when he was fresh out of the Old Kai's power up. There's a reason Toriyama (or Toei) chose to defuse Gotenks right when he was going to kick some ass.
God-Tier or just > Vegetto?Papasmurf said:Far higher than anyone in Z
I don't see why would Gohan be that week since he was in his ultimate state a year ago but this one is debatable.Animelover5487 said:Gohan is so much weaker at this point that he nearly kills himself powering up as a SSJ, so yeah that doesn't mean he can take out Boohan who was much stronger than Gohan even when he was fresh out of the Old Kai's power up. There's a reason Toriyama (or Toei) chose to defuse Gotenks right when he was going to kick some ass.
Fantastische Hure said:But then Gohan becoming Super-Saiyan was treated as a bigger deal. I'm not sure on the matter, either though.Animelover5487 said:Gohan is so much weaker at this point that he nearly kills himself powering up as a SSJ, so yeah that doesn't mean he can take out Boohan who was much stronger than Gohan even when he was fresh out of the Old Kai's power up. There's a reason Toriyama (or Toei) chose to defuse Gotenks right when he was going to kick some ass.
Papasmurf said:Freeza in first form isn't weaker than SSJ Gotenks. He shows the ability to sense ki after his training, so it makes no sense for him to act composed upon SSJ Gotenks' arrival when he didn't know they were temporarily fused.
Papasmurf said:Freeza sensed SSJB Goku's god-ki and felt it was less than his golden form among other things.