How powerful is DB-Super Shisami?

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Fantastische Hure said:
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No idea. He did deflect some of Gohan's Ki blasts without much trouble, but it's implied he's not Ginyu Force level since Sorbet treated Tagoma surpassing them as a huge deal.
What about Piccolo asking whether Gohan wanted help before the fight started?

Yeah that too. I guess Sorbet never thought Tagoma would have the potential to reach that level of power considering he was always inferior to Shisami.
 

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I also assume movie Gohan is lower than he is in DragonBall Super, since he needed Super-Saiyan to defeat Shisami in the movie or at-least to one-shot him/defeat him easily, but in the series even in his regular-state he's way above Piccolo and in his Super-Saiyan state he can rick-roll Tagoma-Ginyu.
 

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Well everyone in the movie was Namek tier after all, considering First Form Freeza had a PL of 1.3 million :troll
 

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1.3 million can run circles around Majin Boo and his killer :alex2 :alex2
 

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Or Gohan and everyone-else was nerfed to below 1.3 million & Boo is in-fact higher than 1st Form Freeza in the movie. :sponge :sponge :sponge
 

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The way Gohan seems to look at Super Saiyan as a "trump card" is pretty weird, honestly.

"Don't worry. I can still become a Super Saiyan...probably." Gohan's already unsure if he can transform, but says nothing about his Ultimate state.

"That guy is hiding power that's on par with mine." Tagoma laughs off his close range Chi-blast, so we know Base Gohan at that level can't handle him.

"I can't draw out my full-power. Is this because I haven't been training?" Gohan seems to reach this conclusion while fighting Ginyu.

"Well, looks like I have no other choice." Becoming Super Saiyan is that hard now, it seems.

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^to be honest that can be proof that Super-Saiyan Gohan did indeed surpass his limits (Ultimate Gohan) and that's why he doubts he can go Super-Saiyan and can't seemingly hold on to that for too long.
 

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Yeah either way I think DBS Gohan was worlds above his pre-Ultimate self. Just... too irrelevant and pathetic looking to look impressive.
 

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I've seen people put Gohan below the level he was at while fighting Dabra. That's just pretty ridiculous. I agree with the logic that he was just simply pathetic to do anything worthwhile.
 

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