How powerful Vegeta SSJ2 (enraged DBS) compared to Beerus (DBS)?

[SIAD]

Will Beerus (10% DBS) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged DBS) >>>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (DBS)? O Beerus (10% DBS) >>> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged DBS) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (DBS)? Which option is the one?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Depends on two things:

1 - Did Beerus need to power up out of necessity with Vegeta's power, or to drive in the message that Vegeta was nowhere near his level?

2 - Was Beerus telling the truth when he said he was using 10%? He lied to Goku about using 100% of his power and Vegeta never seemed to realise Beerus was holding back, so it could be assumed that he lied to Vegeta too.

 

[kriss-]

Beerus was being pummeled by Vegeta, whom managed to score the upper-hand on many occasions throughout the fight. It wasn't a one-sided scuffle in favor of Beerus, his power level of 10% actually had a fight in front of him. As 15%-20% gap seems reasonable.

The two were disregarded as solutions to fight Beerus. But Goku at least thought Vegeta might push him far enough to get serious, he didn't even say or imply the same about Vegetto. Besides the Beerus that fought Goku used less than 10% power to defeat him and this was enough for Goku to ascertain Vegetto wasn't relevant in this fight. Additionally, Goku cannot sense the presence of a deity so he was basing his estimates about Vegetto's power in comparison to what he saw, which is inferior to the power that Vegeta fought.

At the end of the day, the two are probably more or less the same with Vegeta carrying an edge in power.

Beerus
-10% 10,000

Vegeta Raging
-Ssj2 8,000

Vegetto (Boo Saga/Db Super)
-Ssj 937.50
-Ssj2 1,875
-Ssj3 7,500

Also, for anybody who tries to argue that Ssj3 Vegetto is close to Goku SSJG or 40% of Beerus, get outta here! Goku did 4 power-ups in his Super Saiyan God form and exponentially increased in power each time. His initial transformation into Saiyan God exponentially blew past all previous estimates for Beerus & Vegetto.

 

[SIAD]

Depends on two things:

1 - Did Beerus need to power up out of necessity with Vegeta's power, or to drive in the message that Vegeta was nowhere near his level?

2 - Was Beerus telling the truth when he said he was using 10%? He lied to Goku about using 100% of his power and Vegeta never seemed to realise Beerus was holding back, so it could be assumed that he lied to Vegeta too.

So what option you think more?

CC and think between Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged DBS) vs Whis (Movies)? Whereas the DBS are Gods Universal destroyers, for while the Gods of movies are destroyers of solar systems.

 

[Zoom]

It either means;

1. Beerus and the gods ain't that special
or
2. Vegeta was really that powerful

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Beerus was being pummeled by Vegeta, whom managed to score the upper-hand on many occasions throughout the fight. It wasn't a one-sided scuffle in favor of Beerus, his power level of 10% actually had a fight in front of him. As 15%-20% gap seems reasonable.

The two were disregarded as solutions to fight Beerus. But Goku at least thought Vegeta might push him far enough to get serious, he didn't even say or imply the same about Vegetto. Besides the Beerus that fought Goku used less than 10% power to defeat him and this was enough for Goku to ascertain Vegetto wasn't relevant in this fight. Additionally, Goku cannot sense the presence of a deity so he was basing his estimates about Vegetto's power in comparison to what he saw, which is inferior to the power that Vegeta fought.

At the end of the day, the two are probably more or less the same with Vegeta carrying an edge in power.

Beerus
-10% 10,000

Vegeta Raging
-Ssj2 8,000

Vegetto (Boo Saga/Db Super)
-Ssj 937.50
-Ssj2 1,875
-Ssj3 7,500

Also, for anybody who tries to argue that Ssj3 Vegetto is close to Goku SSJG or 40% of Beerus, get outta here! Goku did 4 power-ups in his Super Saiyan God form and exponentially increased in power each time. His initial transformation into Saiyan God exponentially blew past all previous estimates for Beerus & Vegetto.

Vegito is still stronger than Vegeta.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

1. Beerus and the gods ain't that special

Considering a clash between two Gods is enough to destroy the entire 6th Universe and all it's realms, that much is an impossibility now.

Scenario 2's definitely the way to go.

 

[kriss-]

Beerus was being pummeled by Vegeta, whom managed to score the upper-hand on many occasions throughout the fight. It wasn't a one-sided scuffle in favor of Beerus, his power level of 10% actually had a fight in front of him. As 15%-20% gap seems reasonable.

The two were disregarded as solutions to fight Beerus. But Goku at least thought Vegeta might push him far enough to get serious, he didn't even say or imply the same about Vegetto. Besides the Beerus that fought Goku used less than 10% power to defeat him and this was enough for Goku to ascertain Vegetto wasn't relevant in this fight. Additionally, Goku cannot sense the presence of a deity so he was basing his estimates about Vegetto's power in comparison to what he saw, which is inferior to the power that Vegeta fought.

At the end of the day, the two are probably more or less the same with Vegeta carrying an edge in power.

Beerus
-10% 10,000

Vegeta Raging
-Ssj2 8,000

Vegetto (Boo Saga/Db Super)
-Ssj 937.50
-Ssj2 1,875
-Ssj3 7,500

Also, for anybody who tries to argue that Ssj3 Vegetto is close to Goku SSJG or 40% of Beerus, get outta here! Goku did 4 power-ups in his Super Saiyan God form and exponentially increased in power each time. His initial transformation into Saiyan God exponentially blew past all previous estimates for Beerus & Vegetto.

Vegito is still stronger than Vegeta.

I find it humorous that you had to go out of your way to state something so stupid. You are clearly biased and enjoy wanking Vegetto, despite all the evidence working against him.

I'll pay you 50 bucks if you have any sort of evidence -besides speculation, that can somehow prove, Vegetto is stronger than Vegeta.

 

[MissingUTAH]

I'll give $75 to anyone who can settle the Vegeta vs Vegetto debate either way with cold, hard facts.

Anyway, FM Vegeta vs Beerus all depends on when Beerus started using 10% of his power. If he was at 10% the whole time, than Vegeta could be as high as 15% of Beerus's power. However, I don't think that's true. One moment, Beerus was holding his own, but clearly on the defensive. The next, he took Vegeta's most powerful attack like it was nothing. Beerus's power clearly changed between those moments, and that's when I think he started using 10% of his power. Beerus only said he had used 10% of his power, not that he'd done it the whole fight.

 

[kriss-]

I'll give $75 to anyone who can settle the Vegeta vs Vegetto debate either way with cold, hard facts.

Anyway, FM Vegeta vs Beerus all depends on when Beerus started using 10% of his power. If he was at 10% the whole time, than Vegeta could be as high as 15% of Beerus's power. However, I don't think that's true. One moment, Beerus was holding his own, but clearly on the defensive. The next, he took Vegeta's most powerful attack like it was nothing. Beerus's power clearly changed between those moments, and that's when I think he started using 10% of his power. Beerus only said he had used 10% of his power, not that he'd done it the whole fight.

Beerus not using 100% was contradicted, so it's a fact. Beerus using 10% wasn't contradicted so it's a fact. Vegetto was dismissed prior to Beerus being 'forced' to use 10% power:

Beerus (Less than 10%) > Vegetto (Any transformation your soul desires)

Beerus was pushed to 10% from Vegeta.

Beerus 10% > Raging Vegeta > Beerus (Less than 10%) > Vegetto (Any transformation your soul desires)

There you have it. I'll take my 75 dollars now.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Should have bet 75 yen. Would have been much more economical on the wallet.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Beerus was being pummeled by Vegeta, whom managed to score the upper-hand on many occasions throughout the fight. It wasn't a one-sided scuffle in favor of Beerus, his power level of 10% actually had a fight in front of him. As 15%-20% gap seems reasonable.

The two were disregarded as solutions to fight Beerus. But Goku at least thought Vegeta might push him far enough to get serious, he didn't even say or imply the same about Vegetto. Besides the Beerus that fought Goku used less than 10% power to defeat him and this was enough for Goku to ascertain Vegetto wasn't relevant in this fight. Additionally, Goku cannot sense the presence of a deity so he was basing his estimates about Vegetto's power in comparison to what he saw, which is inferior to the power that Vegeta fought.

At the end of the day, the two are probably more or less the same with Vegeta carrying an edge in power.

Also, for anybody who tries to argue that Ssj3 Vegetto is close to Goku SSJG or 40% of Beerus, get outta here! Goku did 4 power-ups in his Super Saiyan God form and exponentially increased in power each time. His initial transformation into Saiyan God exponentially blew past all previous estimates for Beerus & Vegetto.

Vegito is still stronger than Vegeta.

I find it humorous that you had to go out of your way to state something so stupid. You are clearly biased and enjoy wanking Vegetto, despite all the evidence working against him.

I'll pay you 50 bucks if you have any sort of evidence -besides speculation, that can somehow prove, Vegetto is stronger than Vegeta.

Vegito can't beat Beerus neither Vegeta can. Even if Goku impiled that Vegeta might push Beerus to get serious then why Vegito can't do it?

 

[SIAD]

1. Beerus and the gods ain't that special

Considering a clash between two Gods is enough to destroy the entire 6th Universe and all it's realms, that much is an impossibility now.

Scenario 2's definitely the way to go.

I am very agree with you CC, Option 2 is the most valid. Do you think CC between Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged DBS) vs whis (Movies)? Whereas the gods in DBS are destroyers of the universe happened by while the Gods of the movies are just casual destroying the solar system. Vegeta is SSJ2 (Enraged DBS) is very behind even Beerus (10% false DBS), but the difference between a universe with Solar System is truly colossal.

 

[kriss-]

1. Beerus and the gods ain't that special

Considering a clash between two Gods is enough to destroy the entire 6th Universe and all it's realms, that much is an impossibility now.

Scenario 2's definitely the way to go.

I am very agree with you CC, Option 2 is the most valid. Do you think CC between Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged DBS) vs whis (Movies)? Whereas the gods in DBS are destroyers of the universe happened by while the Gods of the movies are just casual destroying the solar system. Vegeta is SSJ2 (Enraged DBS) is very behind even Beerus (10% false DBS), but the difference between a universe with Solar System is truly colossal.

Option 2 is not the way to go. Beerus used less than 10% power to defeat Goku and Goku cannot sense a God's Chi. So he had no idea how powerful Beerus truly was. He figures less than 10% of Beerus's total power is greater than Vegetto. This is not contradicted so it remains a fact.

Vegeta pushed Beerus far enough that Goku thought he would get serious. So he already did what Vegetto couldn't do

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Vegeta pushed Beerus far enough that Goku thought he would get serious. So he already did what Vegetto couldn't do

You do realise his option 2 was "Vegeta is extremely powerful", don't you?

 

[kriss-]

Vegeta pushed Beerus far enough that Goku thought he would get serious. So he already did what Vegetto couldn't do

You do realise his option 2 was "Vegeta is extremely powerful", don't you?

Beerus was unwillingly 'forced' to use 10% power to defend himself, not to make Vegeta look weak and establish his dominance over him.

Option 2 is not the way to go. SIAD also ignores my replies, despite all the evidence working against him.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Beerus was unwillingly 'forced' to use 10% power to defend himself, not to make Vegeta look weak and establish his dominance over him.

Option 2 is not the way to go. SIAD also ignores my replies, despite all the evidence working against him.[/quote]


I wasn't even referring to my hypothesis when talking about option 2. If you bothered looking at the context, I was referring to this.

2. Vegeta was really that powerful

 

[SIAD]

Beerus was unwillingly 'forced' to use 10% power to defend himself, not to make Vegeta look weak and establish his dominance over him.

Option 2 is not the way to go. SIAD also ignores my replies, despite all the evidence working against him.

I wasn't even referring to my hypothesis when talking about option 2. If you bothered looking at the context, I was referring to this.

2. Vegeta was really that powerful

[/quote]

So what's your hypothesis?

 

[kriss-]

I wasn't even referring to my hypothesis when talking about option 2. If you bothered looking at the context, I was referring to this.

Oh...

k

 

[SIAD]

Vegeta pushed Beerus far enough that Goku thought he would get serious. So he already did what Vegetto couldn't do

You do realise his option 2 was "Vegeta is extremely powerful", don't you?

Beerus was unwillingly 'forced' to use 10% power to defend himself, not to make Vegeta look weak and establish his dominance over him.

Option 2 is not the way to go. SIAD also ignores my replies, despite all the evidence working against him.

If I see your answers anyway. I like the food chain of the different types of powers that has Goku SSJG (against Beerus). I also read his theories, just have not had much time to answer them.