How strong were Pan and Trunks in M2?

[GreatSaiyaman123]

And did they get stronger for the Baby Saga? How much?

 

[Papasmurf]

SSJ Trunks (post-M2) > base Rild > SSJ Trunks (M2)

Dunno about Pan. Her enraged power should be up there with base Rild or so.

 

[SSJ2]

I don't think Pan has a single feat after M2.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

SSJ Trunks (post-M2) > base Rild > SSJ Trunks (M2)

Dunno about Pan. Her enraged power should be up there with base Rild or so.

And enraged Pan > SSJ Trunks (M2) right?

Goku says he knew Trunks let himself be turned into metal because he couldn’t be taken down so easily. Does this mean M2 Trunks is somewhere in Rildo’s league?

 

[Papasmurf]

And enraged Pan > SSJ Trunks (M2) right?

Goku says he knew Trunks let himself be turned into metal because he couldn’t be taken down so easily. Does this mean M2 Trunks is somewhere in Rildo’s league?

Trunks said enraged Pan "might" be stronger than his SSJ form (or himself in general). It seems base Rild, enraged Pan and Trunks are all within close range of each other.

 

[Pyro]

Pan took little to no damage from SSJ Goten-Baby on Earth if I recall correctly, so she's got that going for her.

 

[Papasmurf]

Pan took little to no damage from SSJ Goten-Baby on Earth if I recall correctly, so she's got that going for her.

GT damage feats aren't that consistent breh. SBV2 couldn't even kill his base half-Saiyan slaves with a Ki blast fired with killing intent.

 

[Pyro]

GT damage feats aren't that consistent breh. SBV2 couldn't even kill his base half-Saiyan slaves with a Ki blast fired with killing intent.

He couldn't destroy Earth with a Galick Gun as an Oozaru either.

 

[Papasmurf]

Saiyan arc Vegeta > Golden Oozaru Vegeta-Baby

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Saiyan arc Vegeta > Golden Oozaru Vegeta-Baby

Have we ever seen Vegeta destroy a planet though?

 

[Papasmurf]

Have we ever seen Vegeta destroy a planet though?

Final Flash was stated to be too much for the planet to take unless he narrowed the beam width

 

[Pakl]

GT is trash

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

GT is trash

Better than DBS

 

[SSJ2]

I'd rather rewatch the Zunama episode 500 times than watch Krillin be afraid of Tambourine in Super. Fuck Super.

 

[SIAD]

I'd rather rewatch the Zunama episode 500 times than watch Krillin be afraid of Tambourine in Super. Fuck Super.

Chapters later that same Krillin gives Goku SSJB (ToP) problems.

 

[SSJ2]

Chapters later that same Krillin gives Goku SSJB (ToP) problems.

Goku was obviously suppressed so he wouldn't hurt Krillin's feelings. Krillin is weaker than Tambourine and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[Pyro]

Krillin was scared of Tambibambi? Fucking hell, I forgot about that forest nonsense.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Isn’t Kuririn afraid of Tambourine because of trauma?

 

[SSJ2]

Tambourine was about to one shot him.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Trunks expelling Baby would suggest his post-M2 SSJ self is stronger than Base Rild, whereas him questioning if an enraged Pan that the same Rild could rank hits from without budging when serious was stronger than himself suggests some huge gains for Trunks. Beyond being inferior to Rild, it's hard to say how strong he was on M2, but him not fully knowing if Enraged Pan was stronger than him places his SSJ self at least above BoGT SSJ Goku as Enraged Pan >> Nutt > BoGT SSJ Goku.

That said, Pan is above BoGT SSJ Goku with rage due to the Mega Cannon Sigma having Gill's data and Rild not being surprised at SSJ Goku. Her later taking no damage from SSJ Goten-Baby combined with her dealing significant damage to Infant Baby despite him already having a noteworthy Ki by Goku's standards and her and Trunks' contribution allowing Goku to easily oneshot Base Rild shows she at least maintained that level of power in her regular state afterwards if not getting even stronger. Any gains after M2 until the Evil Dragon Arc would be purely assumptive and her running from Base Rild in the Super #17 Arc shows she hadn't reached his or Base Gohan's level by then.