Is Doflamingo...

[ahill1]

Luffy @ Cracker > Luffy @ Doflamingo

Does that hold true for Gear Fourth? I mean, did the state improve? I don't doubt his gear Second and gear third have gotten some leverage, but the G4 state wasn't pushed that far. It only couldn't maintaim its stamina.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If Zoro's statement about becoming stronger from overcoming death remains true as a constant rule, then WCI Luffy > Dressrosa Luffy in all forms due to the damage he put his body through to beat Doflamingo. The far less severe drawbacks of Gear 4th in his fights with Cracker and Katakuri would support this too.

 

[ahill1]

If Zoro's statement about becoming stronger from overcoming death remains true as a constant rule, then WCI Luffy > Dressrosa Luffy in all forms due to the damage he put his body through to beat Doflamingo. The far less severe drawbacks of Gear 4th in his fights with Cracker and Katakuri would support this too.

But it isn't like Luffy was pushed too far while on Gear Fourth. The whole time while on G4, he was outmatching Doflamingo, so it's doubtful that such state would undergo a power increase. I mean, I dunno... It's possible, but I'd be more content on assigning a power increase to the states that were indeed outperformed by Dofy, the G2 and G3.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

But it isn't like Luffy was pushed too far while on Gear Fourth. The whole time while on G4, he was outmatching Doflamingo, so it's doubtful that such state would undergo a power increase. I mean, I dunno... It's possible, but I'd be more content on assigning a power increase to the states that were indeed outperformed by Dofy, the G2 and G3.

He was so fatigued after using it that he required constant rest immediately after defeating Doflamingo, so his body was certainly pushed to the limit by just using it. I wouldn't say there's anything to suggest his boost didn't remain proportionate to each form, given the only time where the gap between them was presented as lowering afterwards was when he was getting an asspulled power up gradually increasing his Haki in base against Katakuri.

 

[ahill1]

But it isn't like Luffy was pushed too far while on Gear Fourth. The whole time while on G4, he was outmatching Doflamingo, so it's doubtful that such state would undergo a power increase. I mean, I dunno... It's possible, but I'd be more content on assigning a power increase to the states that were indeed outperformed by Dofy, the G2 and G3.

He was so fatigued after using it that he required constant rest immediately after defeating Doflamingo, so his body was certainly pushed to the limit by just using it. I wouldn't say there's anything to suggest his boost didn't remain proportionate to each form, given the only time where the gap between them was presented as lowering afterwards was when he was getting an asspulled power up gradually increasing his Haki in base against Katakuri.

Do you think current Luffy can defeat Dofy without gear Fourth?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

In power, it could go either way, depending how significant his GAINZ were, though Doffy's techniques and Luffy's lack of speed would still put Luffy at a disadvantage.