Is the world in the DBZ movies totally f#cked?

Warmmedown

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So a lot of people say the movies are a different timeline. Toriyama himself said he sees it as another timeline.

In the movies they probably didn't fight Raditz, since Gohan power can't be a surprise twice (versus Garlic Jr too).
Still, Gohan already got kidnapped by the Dr Robotnik guy in in "World's Strongest Man"/"Give Me Back My Gohan!!". So he's kidnapped twice.
They fought Tullece.
They probably fought Vegeta.
Then they fought Slug
They faced Freeza.
They faced Cooler
Then Cooler AGAIN (cool movie, I think I watched it all)
Then they faced the Temu androids who look like they're on the way to a Clint Eastwood movie casting, in Movie 7/Super Android 13.
Then within about 10 days they fight:
Broly, who was going to destroy parts of King Kai's quadrant
Hatchyak
Cell
Then:
Bojack
They fight Broly again
Then they fight Janemba
They fight Biobroly at some point.
Then Buu
THEN Hirudegarn (did anyone watch this? I've only seen it once)

Cursed timeline. Main timeline Goku was worried that his presence might keep causing strong guys to show up and they're like nooo. In Toei's timeline they'd be like "yes please fuck off, we just fought three Cells in 10 days". Then when Goku was gone they had to fight Janmba, Broly and Bio-Broly so they're like "ok you might as well come back now Goku cuz you're causing trouble even when you're in the Other World. Also Krillin wants you to see his haircut and wife and kid who he actually pays attention to".

Or do you think these movies aren't all in one timeline but are just self-contained in several timelines? Eg Movie 8, 10 and 11 are together. That's still pretty cursed though, unless some of the movies are timelines where the fights with Freeza, the Androids, Cell or Buu didn't happen.
 

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I just assumed they are mostly self-contained (unless sequel or hinted otherwise). I know DragonBall GT hinted they are all together & Movie 12, but whaaaaaaaaaaaaat...
 

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I never realized it was FUBAR when I was watching them on VHS and they had only 52 episodes dubbed. I was like "maybe they beat Frieza 8 episodes later and then Turles invades the Earth with the Tree of Might."

I also remember thinking they all beat Dr. Wheelo before leaving for Namek, not that this makes any sense. We kinda just accepted this in the 90s. :idk
 

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I think each movie has its own timeline where any weird plot hole just fixes itself because it's not canon and therefore has different events. (this applies to GT as well)
 

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No cuz the movies and GT are canon and Goku always win
I remember when I didn’t know any better and thought the Movies and GT were part of the Dragon Ball Anime and the Dragon Ball Z Anime continuity. Those were some fun times.
 

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I remember when I didn’t know any better and thought the Movies and GT were part of the Dragon Ball Anime and the Dragon Ball Z Anime continuity. Those were some fun times.
Well, you could make the argument that GT is still part of the old anime canon (pre-Kai/Super). It's got the worst plot of the first 3 series but Z filler was just as contradictory for the most part. But on the other hand, it appears to take place in the same continuity as M5/M6 and M12/M13 so you can still argue GT is just a non-canon sidestory even to the old anime, where Coola definitely wasn't canon like Garlic Jr.
 

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I think the movies follow a weird sort of "What If" scenario mirroring Dr Who or Future Trunks... Deceptively interesting.
 

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