Just to get this straight...

[Fantastische Hure]

...I just had a thought again and I don't know how I missed asking this, but if Gohan all the way back when he was training with Piccolo was only then back to his ultimate power from the Boo Saga, does that mean Piccolo was lower than Boo Saga Ultimate Gohan all-along?

 

[theallpowerfulpuipui]

It probably means Kid Buu > Beerus

 

[Fantastische Hure]

It probably means Kid Buu > Beerus

 

[Papasmurf]

Super retconned Ultimate Gohan to SSJG levels

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

No, Piccolo used the clone technique which divided his power as well hence Gohan was able to beat him easily.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

What Fearless said. Considering how easily he KO'd Gohan with a simple Ki blast, Piccolo likely wasn't going all out in his fight either.

 

[Void]

Piccolo was tooling SS2 Gohan, so he is at the very least Mr. Boo tier in my opinion.

 

[Pyro]

Yes, of course Piccolo was weaker than Boo Saga Ultimate Gohan.

Piccolo tooling SSJ2 Gohan? Puhlease. Dude was at a disadvantage until he capitalized on Gohan's weakness.

 

[SIAD]

In fact, Gohan did not defeat Piccolo, rather, Gohan Ultimatum overcame some of Piccolo's many clones, which were possibly even very suppressed each. Then Piccolo with a mini ki explosion, I very easily beat Gohan Ultimatum.

  There was no winner in the bout, but clearly Piccolo was many light years over Gohan Ultimatum and any DBZ / DBGT character.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

But Piccolo called Ultimate Gohan amazing and seemed to imply that his power was above his own.

 

[GSM123]

You're trying to make DBS make sense.

 

[Void]

Yes, of course Piccolo was weaker than Boo Saga Ultimate Gohan.

Piccolo tooling SSJ2 Gohan? Puhlease. Dude was at a disadvantage until he capitalized on Gohan's weakness.

What? Piccolo was choking SS2 Gohan out with one stretchy arm. Gohan was writhing around, screaming "Where did you get such powahhhh!?!?"

 

[Fantastische Hure]

You're trying to make DBS make sense.

I'm sorry my fault. I must have forgotten to leave my standards behind when watching or thinking about DragonBall Super.

 

[Pyro]

Yes, of course Piccolo was weaker than Boo Saga Ultimate Gohan.

Piccolo tooling SSJ2 Gohan? Puhlease. Dude was at a disadvantage until he capitalized on Gohan's weakness.

What? Piccolo was choking SS2 Gohan out with one stretchy arm. Gohan was writhing around, screaming "Where did you get such powahhhh!?!?"

He got him in the choke because Gohan wasn't fully in the fight, like Piccolo brought up at the start. Gohan successfully landed the only strike in their bout, whereas Piccolo's rear knee attempt was blocked even though Gohan didn't know where Piccolo would be attacking from. Gohan dodged Piccolo's green ki wave slasher nearly point-blank, which is when Piccolo lambasted him for not taking the fight seriously enough. That's when he got Gohan with his arm, choked him out, and mentioned how he lets his guard down at vital moments.

I don't see anything in the fight that would make me think Piccolo was actually stronger than Gohan ki-wise, let alone noticeably stronger as some claim. Piccolo capitalized on Gohan's weaknesses, that's all.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yes, of course Piccolo was weaker than Boo Saga Ultimate Gohan.

Piccolo tooling SSJ2 Gohan? Puhlease. Dude was at a disadvantage until he capitalized on Gohan's weakness.

What? Piccolo was choking SS2 Gohan out with one stretchy arm. Gohan was writhing around, screaming "Where did you get such powahhhh!?!?"

He got him in the choke because Gohan wasn't fully in the fight and was off-guard, like Piccolo brought up at the start as Gohan's weakness. Gohan successfully landed the only strike in their bout, whereas Piccolo's rear knee attempt was blocked even though Gohan didn't know where Piccolo would be attacking from. Gohan dodged Piccolo's green ki wave slasher nearly point-blank, which is when Piccolo lambasted him for not taking the fight seriously enough. That's when he got Gohan with his arm, choked him out, and mentioned how he lets his guard down at vital moments.

I don't see anything in the fight that would make me think Piccolo was actually stronger than Gohan ki-wise, let alone noticeably stronger as some claim. Piccolo capitalized on Gohan's weaknesses, that's all.

So even in anime Piccolo is still below Super-Boo?

 

[Pyro]

What? Piccolo was choking SS2 Gohan out with one stretchy arm. Gohan was writhing around, screaming "Where did you get such powahhhh!?!?"

He got him in the choke because Gohan wasn't fully in the fight, like Piccolo brought up at the start. Gohan successfully landed the only strike in their bout, whereas Piccolo's rear knee attempt was blocked even though Gohan didn't know where Piccolo would be attacking from. Gohan dodged Piccolo's green ki wave slasher nearly point-blank, which is when Piccolo lambasted him for not taking the fight seriously enough. That's when he got Gohan with his arm, choked him out, and mentioned how he lets his guard down at vital moments.

I don't see anything in the fight that would make me think Piccolo was actually stronger than Gohan ki-wise, let alone noticeably stronger as some claim. Piccolo capitalized on Gohan's weaknesses, that's all.

So even in anime Piccolo is still below Super-Boo?

If Ultimate Gohan (Super, pre-tourney) = Ultimate Gohan (Boo Saga) >>> SSJ2 Gohan >~ Piccolo, then yes. Piccolo is far behind Super Boo.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Piccolo was weaker than boo arc ultimate Gohan. No idea where the idea that he's weaker than boo is coming from though. Even base Gohan was stronger than ssj3 Gotenks and super boo since he was equal to base Goku.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

He got him in the choke because Gohan wasn't fully in the fight, like Piccolo brought up at the start. Gohan successfully landed the only strike in their bout, whereas Piccolo's rear knee attempt was blocked even though Gohan didn't know where Piccolo would be attacking from. Gohan dodged Piccolo's green ki wave slasher nearly point-blank, which is when Piccolo lambasted him for not taking the fight seriously enough. That's when he got Gohan with his arm, choked him out, and mentioned how he lets his guard down at vital moments.

I don't see anything in the fight that would make me think Piccolo was actually stronger than Gohan ki-wise, let alone noticeably stronger as some claim. Piccolo capitalized on Gohan's weaknesses, that's all.

So even in anime Piccolo is still below Super-Boo?

If Ultimate Gohan (Super, pre-tourney) = Ultimate Gohan (Boo Saga) >>> SSJ2 Gohan >~ Piccolo, then yes. Piccolo is far behind Super Boo.

And that's how it was presented.

 

[Void]

Yes, of course Piccolo was weaker than Boo Saga Ultimate Gohan.

Piccolo tooling SSJ2 Gohan? Puhlease. Dude was at a disadvantage until he capitalized on Gohan's weakness.

What? Piccolo was choking SS2 Gohan out with one stretchy arm. Gohan was writhing around, screaming "Where did you get such powahhhh!?!?"

He got him in the choke because Gohan wasn't fully in the fight, like Piccolo brought up at the start. Gohan successfully landed the only strike in their bout, whereas Piccolo's rear knee attempt was blocked even though Gohan didn't know where Piccolo would be attacking from. Gohan dodged Piccolo's green ki wave slasher nearly point-blank, which is when Piccolo lambasted him for not taking the fight seriously enough. That's when he got Gohan with his arm, choked him out, and mentioned how he lets his guard down at vital moments.

I don't see anything in the fight that would make me think Piccolo was actually stronger than Gohan ki-wise, let alone noticeably stronger as some claim. Piccolo capitalized on Gohan's weaknesses, that's all.

Gohan still remained on the defensive, failing miserably in his attempts to free himself.

 

[Papasmurf]

I don't think SSJ2 Gohan was above Piccolo in power. All he did was land the first blow, after that he was shocked shitless from Piccolo's finger beam and was no match for Piccolo's arm strength