Kibitoshin vs SSJ2 Teen Gohan

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Kibitoshin thought he could help out against Bootenks. He stomps. :et
 

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How strong do you have him?
 

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I have him a little bit above Majin Vegeta. He wins handily.
 

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Kaioshin alone can stop Gohan for a short moment, so a much stronger Kibitoshin can paralyze and beat up on Gohan easily.
 

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Despite having got a fairly good read of Teen Gohan SSj2, he regarded himself as helpful against Boo, regardless of disregarding him before-hand. Whereas the Elder Kaioshin regarded Vegeta SSj2 as helpful against Pure Boo.

He should fit nicely in between Gohan SSj2 & Goku/Vegeta SSj2.
 

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E.Kaioshin thought the two dumb moron Saiyans were going to fuse with Fusion though and Kibitoshin is a clumsy fighter anyway.
 

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Either Saiyan could have fused with Kibitoshin as well. Despite being inferior to Teen Gohan Super Saiyan 1, he was capable of putting up some resistence to Innocent Boo.

Kibito on his own was capable of giving Teen Gohan's Base form a hard time. Kibitoshin is the product of both these fighters combined. I definitely wouldn't call them sloppy fighters. They probably just did not have enough power to be useful.
 

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They aren't the same size as Kaioshin.
He was only able to budge Boo a bit with two kiais.

Kibito's clumsiness got him easily killed by Dabra.
According to E.K., if he were to fight with Goku, he'd just get himself absorbed, so that does imply he isn't much of a competent fighter.
If Kibitoshin were to be absorbed by Pure Boo, that would make the Saiyans automatically lose and so he was better off teleporting E.Kaioshin and Dende to safety.
 

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GokhanDBZfan said:
They aren't the same size as Kaioshin.
He was only able to budge Boo a bit with two kiais.

Kibito's clumsiness got him easily killed by Dabra.
According to E.K., if he were to fight with Goku, he'd just get himself absorbed, so that does imply he isn't much of a competent fighter.
If Kibitoshin were to be absorbed by Pure Boo, that would make the Saiyans automatically lose and so he was better off teleporting E.Kaioshin and Dende to safety.
Akira Toriyama has stated that size doesn't matter, nor does the amount of people fusing. Anybody and any amount of people could fuse.

Kibito was taken completely off guard by Dabra. This happens from time to time in Dragonball. It doesn't necessarily mean that he's clumsy.

E.K's opinion shouldn't be completely reliable. Vegeta could have gotten absorbed at any point, but he didn't. Not because he was clumsy, but because Boo just didn't care.

I'd think that Kibitoshin wasn't powerful enough to be considered a factor.
 

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Saylé said:
Kibito was taken completely off guard by Dabra. This happens from time to time in Dragonball. It doesn't necessarily mean that he's clumsy.
Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…


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Mike said:
Saylé said:
Kibito was taken completely off guard by Dabra. This happens from time to time in Dragonball. It doesn't necessarily mean that he's clumsy.
Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…


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He was taken off guard, it happens. Oh and he is only as powerful as Teen Gohan's Base form, there wasn't anything that he could really do -simultaneously, this makes him 50x weaker than Teen Gohan's Super Saiyan form, whom was still having trouble with Dabra.
 

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The point is that "bumbler" is synonymous with "klutz". Vegeta is calling Kibito clumsy, which supports GokhanDBZfan's argument.
 

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Vegeta is an over-confident prick at times. He says things that aren't necessarily true. His opinion isn't really relevant here, considering how much inferior Kibito was to Dabra.
 

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