King Piccolo Planet Buster?

[Tapion]

The second most powerful attack of Piccolo Daimao is 97 Megatons (Small City Level), while the most powerful Nuclear Bomb in history, was the Tsar Bomb with 50 megatons.

That's the real world nuclear bombs though.

The Red Ribbon Army, a ragtag army, was in possession of a nuclear bomb that destroyed a mountain, a feat which was calc'ed anywhere from 11 megatons to 90 megatons, if I recall correctly. So the statement can be accurate if you take into account the Dragon Ball World is considerably more technologically advanced.

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

Circular fallacy is circular. The Daizenshuu states that King Piccolo's limits are city level - you can't just go and "but the Daizenshuu also says X" as if it's a valid debunk. At best it's cherry-picking between the two definitions.

Except I'm allowed to use the same source to show that it debunks itself. As such, Daizenshuu debunks this statement, and it's very clear on Kamehameha being a moon busting attack. It actually mentions this twice, while it is only stated that Daimao is City buster in the power level section while failing to address that in his Character dictionary or his special attack dictionary.

So there's no cherrypicking. Daizenshuu states twice something, while messes the other. I also choose what's supported by other guides, which is the belief. There's no fallacy here for doing that. There would be cherrypicking if I say Cell Juniors = Cell without providing a reason.

It's merely recapitulating what is happening in the volume. Nobody is denying that Roshi destroyed the Moon. People are denying that it is a feat that can be applied while disregarding literally every single other feat that conclusively suggests this one feat is an outlier and inconsistent.

Not really. Each volume in El manga legendario is divided into sections, the first section basically recaps the story, and the rest is explaining some specific assets. Such as El Manga explaining Uub's power, describing Daimao's Ki blast speeds, and many more. No other feat suggests this one feat is an outlier except arguments based on faulty generalizations and incredulity. Reallly, that's about it. Nothing directly claims or implies that Roshi's feat is an outlier, yet people use Daimao's eats as an asset to their argument, which makes Planet destructive feats done by Frieza an outlier due to Cell not committing similar feats.

 

[Tapion]

Except I'm allowed to use the same source to show that it debunks itself. As such, Daizenshuu debunks this statement, and it's very clear on Kamehameha being a moon busting attack. It actually mentions this twice, while it is only stated that Daimao is City buster in the power level section while failing to address that in his Character dictionary or his special attack dictionary.

All your debunks so far have been just reaffirmations of what Roshi did - all the Daizenshuu and the Legend of Manga state is that the Kamehameha destroyed the Moon. That's just recapitulating the story itself and not actually affirming its strength (even if they did the feat would still be an outlier), whereas the quote provided directly states that the limits of King Piccolo's power is that he is able to destroy a city and has power similar to that of nuclear warheads - which is actually supported by the story and the other feats, because Piccolo himself said that his ability to destroy a city should tell Goku he is too strong. Why wouldn't he brag about destroying planets or moons if moon busting was consistent?

I can also bring up the statement that directly affirms that Piccolo Jr.'s final ace in the hole, full-power and most desperate attack is only strong enough to destroy Papaya Island (the Tenkaichi Budokai grounds):

Special Characteristics: An attack where he lets forth tremendous ki from out of his entire body. It possesses enough destructive power to blow away the entire Tenkaichi Budoukai grounds. It is the technique that he brought out as his final gamble in order to defeat Goku. It is also called the Full-Power Shockwave.

Not really. Each volume in El manga legendario is divided into sections, the first section basically recaps the story, and the rest is explaining some specific assets. Such as El Manga explaining Uub's power, describing Daimao's Ki blast speeds, and many more. No other feat suggests this one feat is an outlier except arguments based on faulty generalizations and incredulity. Reallly, that's about it. Nothing directly claims or implies that Roshi's feat is an outlier, yet people use Daimao's eats as an asset to their argument, which makes Planet destructive feats done by Frieza an outlier due to Cell not committing similar feats.

You just explained why it is an outlier. Literally all the following feats contradict it. Even Piccolo Jr. destroying the moon in the Beginning of Z contradicts it, because it literally left him exhausted.

Cell is a false analogy. Freeza not only repeated his feats numerous times, there were several statements regarding weaker attacks and characters being able to destroy planets, such as Vegeta and the Spirit Bomb in the Saiyan Arc. It fits the power progression neatly while Roshi literally destroys it altogether.

Cell was also going to destroy the Solar System and survived Vegeta's Final Flash (which was stated to be at the bare minimum Earth-busting) while suppressed.

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

All your debunks so far have been just reaffirmations of what Roshi did - all the Daizenshuu and the Legend of Manga state is that the Kamehameha destroyed the Moon. That's just recapitulating the story itself and not actually affirming its strength (even if they did the feat would still be an outlier), whereas the quote provided directly states that the limits of King Piccolo's power is that he is able to destroy a city and has power similar to that of nuclear warheads - which is actually supported by the story and the other feats, because Piccolo himself said that his ability to destroy a city should tell Goku he is too strong. Why wouldn't he brag about destroying planets or moons if moon busting was consistent?

But aren't your debunks just using a single statement from the Daizenshuu 7's power level guide while ignoring two confirmations from the same Daizenshuu guide that, without any circling, mean that Roshi can destroy the moon:

~Max Power
First Appearance: Chapter 51
People: Jacky Chun
Special Characteristics: A technique where he must fully use his muscles in order to fire it, due to the powerful destructive force it puts out. It has enough power to destroy the moon.

Roshi has been stated BOTH TIMES to be able to destroy the moon ASIDE from telling the story in the Daizenshuu while Daimao was never stated directly more than once, and he was only stated in the Power Level section. El Manga Legendario retells AND states that Roshi can moon bust twice and doesn't claim that Daimao can only city bust. Daimao can't bust planets, and there's no reason to brag since he already made it apparent to Goku that he's far above him.

I can also bring up the statement that directly affirms that Piccolo Jr.'s final ace in the hole, full-power and most desperate attack is only strong enough to destroy Papaya Island (the Tenkaichi Budokai grounds):

Special Characteristics: An attack where he lets forth tremendous ki from out of his entire body. It possesses enough destructive power to blow away the entire Tenkaichi Budoukai grounds. It is the technique that he brought out as his final gamble in order to defeat Goku. It is also called the Full-Power Shockwave.

I have yet to see how this proves anything. Pay attention to what it says:

Special Characteristics: An attack where he lets forth tremendous ki from out of his entire body. It possesses enough destructive power to blow away the entire Tenkaichi Budoukai grounds. It is the technique that he brought out as his final gamble in order to defeat Goku. It is also called the Full-Power Shockwave.

It just states that it can destroy the entire Budokai grounds, nowhere does it say it's his limit. As for underlining "Full Power", that's just irrelevant because it's his strongest technique. As for the gamble thing, it relies on the part above which was clarified now.

You just explained why it is an outlier. Literally all the following feats contradict it. Even Piccolo Jr. destroying the moon in the Beginning of Z contradicts it, because it literally left him exhausted.

I just explained what some people do to keep their belief in tact. I didn't even say anything regarding what the series even told us to assess whether I supported myself or you. Aside from that picky, no feats contradict it. SsjB Goku failed to commit the same feats weaker characters performed so Planetary feats are outliers (according to you).

Roshi destroys the moon, and later no one does that feat. Cell never does the same, and a weaker character did it. Pretty sure it's the same case isn't it :/ Roshi has been confirmed multiple times to be able to moon bust, and it was referenced twice in the series. I'm not sure what's there to deny. Unless there's multiple statements that say something along the implication of "I can't destroy anything beyond Earth's moon", then claiming Roshi's feat an outlier is just a disregarded point and an assumption.