LSSJ vs SSJ2

[Pocket-God]

Based purely on the boost it gives from SSJ to SSJ2/LSSJ

You can comment if you want to but I really only need you to vote on the poll.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If we consider Kale and Broly's versions of the form to have comparable boosts, then LSSJ >> SS2 given her fight with Galu. If we view them as separate cases though given how the SSJ multipliers in Super seem to be a lot different than in Z, it could go either way from LSSJ being superior or equal to SS2. Koyama's statement about Broly being the strongest Saiyan would imply M10 LSSJ Broly > SS2 Goku, but the same could be gained with the form being equal to SS2 when considering the Daiz states M10 SSJ Broly > Boo Arc SSJ Galu.
Regardless, I'd still say LSSJ > SS2 since there's very little evidence suggesting otherwise.

 

[Six Trails]

I consider SS2 stronger since SS Broly is stronger than SS Goku and I think SS2 Goku is stronger than LSS Broly.

 

[Future Warrior]

LSSJ by a long shot.

 

[Pocket-God]

By a long shot?

So like if SSJ2 is x2 would you say LSSJ is x4?

 

[Papasmurf]

Remember when Vic used to say M8 Broly was on Fatty's tier and that LSSJ is more than a 100x multiplier due to that cancerous base Gohan fight scene?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Probably SSJ2 given how LSSJ is pretty much a useful SSJG3 form, and i think SSJ2 > Grade 3.

 

[SSJ2]

I view them as equals. Broly tanking Goku's KHH only needs to be a 3.5x gap imo. That makes LSSJ 4x, which is what I have SSJ2 at.

 

[Zippy]

I always thought of them as around the same or at most lssj 2.5x and ssj2 2x

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

LSSjin IMO. There's a reason why Gohan's SSjin2 is still a loser against Broly.

 

[Ultimate Cell]

SS2 for the win

 

[Zippy]

LSSjin IMO. There's a reason why Gohan's SSjin2 is still a loser against Broly.

That can be easily dismissed as broly being stronger in general

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I go with SSJin2 > LSSJ.

At the end of M11 Goku has to go to Hell and deal with Broly who's causing trouble and take Paikuhan with him as back up, and he doesn't seem to view Broly as a threat. If you go with the movies being connected M12 suggest that either SSJ2 alone or SSJin2 + Paikuhan was enough to deal with Broly. I go with the former, I don't think Paikkuhan would've been much help to Goku in said situation. So I go with SSJin2 Goku > LSSJ Broly.

 

[Flame]

Super Saiyan 2 because it's canon

Super isn't canon

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

According to Anime Comics Guide, it's just a Grade 3 Ssj form with no speed issues. But Movie 10 pretty much shows that LSsj form is astoundingly above Ssj2 Mutliplier

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

According to Anime Comics Guide, it's just a Grade 3 Ssj form with no speed issues. But Movie 10 pretty much shows that LSsj form is astoundingly above Ssj2 Mutliplier

So you think that Gohan was SSjin2 in the movie as well?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I guess this new movie and Kale's form will make it a bigger boost.

 

[Pakl]

According to Anime Comics Guide, it's just a Grade 3 Ssj form with no speed issues. But Movie 10 pretty much shows that LSsj form is astoundingly above Ssj2 Mutliplier

It just shows that Broli was stronger than SSjin 2 Gohan

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

According to Anime Comics Guide, it's just a Grade 3 Ssj form with no speed issues. But Movie 10 pretty much shows that LSsj form is astoundingly above Ssj2 Mutliplier

So you think that Gohan was SSjin2 in the movie as well?

Yes, because that's exactly how he's portrayed

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

According to Anime Comics Guide, it's just a Grade 3 Ssj form with no speed issues. But Movie 10 pretty much shows that LSsj form is astoundingly above Ssj2 Mutliplier

It just shows that Broli was stronger than SSjin 2 Gohan

Ssj Broly >= Base Gohan

Gohan goes Ssj2, but Broly goes LSsj. So the difference between LSsj and Ssj is greater than Base and Ssj2