Metal Cooler vs Android 17/18

[p123]

I think this ends up being a pretty good match from what I'm seeing. I had no idea Metal Cooler was this strong. Who wins?

 

[Void]

Doesn't Metal Coola keep getting stronger the more he repairs? He also beat Merged Piccolo, so Coola wins this.

 

[Pocket-God]

I think Metal Cooler could possibly beat one of them but both of them is more than he can handle considering the weaker pair of Goku and Vegeta were able to take him out together.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

With repairing zenkais, he eventually destroys the Androids.
Without them, he loses due to being overnumbered.

 

[Future Warrior]

Assuming Goku and Vegeta are at the same strength as their android arc counterparts, I think 18 by herself would be enough.

 

[p123]

I don't think Movie 6 Piccolos is anywhere comparable to Kamiccolo from the manga. Goku vs Cooler is stated to be for the strongest man in the universe and Krillen outright states that Goku is the strongest in the universe, although it was almost debatable when he says it, since Piccolo had just spoken before.

Anyway... Piccolo is not the beast he is in Movie 7. Movie 7 Piccolo is our manga Kamiccolo.

Also, there might be limits to his repairing zenkais. Perhaps it tops out when Goku and Vegeta blow him up last. There must be a reason why the Big Gete Star countered with a thousand Metal Coolers instead of just one stupidly powerful one.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I don't think Movie 6 Piccolos is anywhere comparable to Kamiccolo from the manga. Goku vs Cooler is stated to be for the strongest man in the universe and Krillin outright states that Goku is the strongest in the universe, although it was almost debatable when he says it, since Piccolo had just spoken before.

Anyway... Piccolo is not the beast he is in Movie 7. Movie 7 Piccolo is our manga Kamiccolo.

Also, there might be limits to his repairing zenkais. Perhaps it tops out when Goku and Vegeta blow him up last. There must be a reason why the Big Gete Star countered with a thousand Metal Coolers instead of just one stupidly powerful one.

Movie 6 takes place in the timeline Trunks created before being killed by Cell. Kamiccolo is the manga version.
Goku/Vegeta trained after Androids and surpassed Kamiccolo. Maybe there was a limit to how strong Gete Star
could make Cooler, so it answered with more bodies.

 

[p123]

That's one way to look at it. There are many interpretations you could take here. Either way, the powers should be around the Androids Saga level.

I see it as this being maybe 6 months before the Androids strike. Vegeta was in space training, came in, helped save the day and went back to his training in space.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

That's one way to look at it. There are many interpretations you could take here. Either way, the powers should be around the Androids Saga level.

I see it as this being maybe 6 months before the Androids strike. Vegeta was in space training, came in, helped save the day and went back to his training in space.

What about Dende being Earth's guardian?

 

[Jeff Styles]

If Cooler can't repair himself, 18 by herself is enough to beats him.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

My guess in regard to M6's timeline is that Piccolo decided to Fuse with Kami during the 3 year training, thus not being the same as his canon post-Kami self, seeing as how M7 is far closer to presenting Piccolo's power in comparison to his canon self. M6 Piccolo is probably the same power as his pre-Kami self, or slightly stronger.

That said, there's not much reason to bloat SSJ Goku/Vegeta beyond their pre-Rosat selves in this movie, so #18 alone take this, unless she allows Coola to repair himself to repair himself to the point he can overpower both of the twins.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

The Daizenshuu places M6 during the 10 day wait before the Cell games, so obviously Metal Cooler obliterates #17 and #18 even together with ease.

 

[SSJ2]

The Daizenshuu places M6 during the 10 day wait before the Cell games, so obviously Metal Cooler obliterates #17 and #18 even together with ease.

Why don't any of the Zet Senshi look like their Movie 8 forms then?

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

I don't see the relevance of that question. Any of the Z fighters would pass for their CG counterpart aesthetics wise except for Gohan due to his hair. Though that doesn't really matter. It was already officially stated where it takes place.

 

[Void]

Movie 6 takes place during the Cell Games despite being released before Cell even absorbed 17?

Let's not apply logic to any of these things.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

That's the officially stated timeframe. Dende is guardian of earth, so that was the intention.

 

[Papasmurf]

They clearly placed it that late in that faggot ass guidebook because of Dende being God but disregarded just about everything else. Hell, this would make #13 obscenely strong too. Every movie villain Goku fights is stronger than the last and everything. So I guess Broly > 13 > Meta Coola > FPSSJ Galu?

Fuck that.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

13 doesn't have to be stronger than Cell games Goku. The writer's statement of every villain being stronger than the last was merely in the form of a trend that he wanted to upkeep. Doesn't mean that's actually what happened. Hence you have things like Toei stating that Janemba>Hildegarn.

 

[Papasmurf]

even supposing Janenba > Hildegarn, that one has an actual statement in Toei's old website confirming that fact (allowing the exception to stand), and Janenba ultimately lost to Gogeta anyway. Broly, 13 and Meta Coola all lost to Goku, and the latter two featuring a Gohan who is clearly sporting the look of his pre-Rosat self suggests the latter two take place in similar time periods, not the former two.

I'd rather consider this a fuck up from Shueisha than somehow warp events so that Trunks is nowhere to be found and Gohan forgot Super Saiyan, and that Toei managed to otherwise perfectly predict events that have yet to even take place in the manga yet.

 

[Pyro]

Toei is Toriyama.