My analysis of how strong bojack is

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This movie takes place after trunks defeated android 17 and 18 in the future:
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Bulma makes mention of Vegeta being useless and he abandoning the desire of fighting:
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Gohan & Trunks are the only ones who are seen as possibility of winning:
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This alone speaks a lot if we consider that back in cg, gohan was so much superior to goku, vegeta or trunks:
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Goku considers that a fight between gohan and trunks would be awesome when he was the one who give cell a senzu bean and cell neglected fighting trunks, piccolo or vegeta?
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This proof alone shows CG gohan > movie gohan

When Bojack appears, ssj trunks is taken down in one kick while being sneak attacked from behind:
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This feat is 50/50 considering that he had hardly any time to defend. However, the scene purpose is to tell us that he is incredibly powerful as shown with gohan's and vegeta's reaction similar to android 17 attacking him on which guaranteed a reaction from krillin.

EDIT: someone who is even on strength can do the same thing to trunks

Gohan claims that bojack has an incredible battle power:
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Piccolo makes an entrance in which bojack is about to destroy gohan:

Piccolo vs bojack
*Bojack dodge piccolo's punch
*Bojack give him a knee to the stomach
*Bojack punch him in the face
*Piccolo gives a kick to bojack
*Piccolo deflects a blast from bojack
*Piccolo is unable to control a blast from bojack and gets defeated

Ssj vegeta vs bojack
*Vegeta and bojack fires blasts to each other
*Trunks says vegeta has lost the will to fight (eg CG vegeta > Movie vegeta)
*Bojack fires a ki blast to vegeta, but vegeta can at least resist the blast unlike piccolo
*Bojack punches vegeta in the face, then a consequent attack and a knee to the back
*Trunks says vegeta can't do much in his condition
*The rest is vegeta being brutalized by bojack while going to his base form as well as bojack going FP is simply overkill for vegeta

Then ssj trunks is defeated in one blast while being sneaked attack

Ssj gohan vs FP bojack
*Gohan can keep up at some exent similar to vegeta but this is a stronger bojack
*Gohan can nulify a blast from bojack (although piccolo can too)
*Bojack punches Gohan
*Bojack acknowledges gohan fought well (unlike with piccolo or vegeta)

In general, given the fights:

FP bojack gap over ssj gohan = base bojack gap over ssj vegeta > base bojack gap over piccolo

ssj gohan = ssj trunks > ssj vegeta > piccolo

Ssj2 gohan vs FP bojack:
*Gohan receives an attack from bojack unfazed
*Gohan punch through bojack chest
*Gohan and bojack's attacks collide
*Gohan eliminates bojack

This kind of domination is similar to ssj2 gohan vs fp perfect cell. As goku say at the end, gohan defeated the guy who piccolo or vegeta couldn't stand up to

My final scalling:
Bojack movie piccolo = 49
50% CG ssj goku = 50
Bojack movie ssj vegeta = 55
CG ssj vegeta = 60
CG ssj trunks = 60
Bojack movie ssj gohan = 60
Base bojack = 66
FP bojack = 72
CG ssj goku = 100
Bojack movie ssj2 gohan = 120

50% CG ssj goku = 50
Bojack movie piccolo = 54
Bojack movie ssj vegeta = 60
CG ssj vegeta = 66
CG ssj trunks = 66
Bojack movie ssj gohan = 66
Base bojack = 72
FP bojack = 80
CG ssj goku = 100
Bojack movie ssj2 gohan = 133

Bojack ends up being weaker than CG goku in both lists, this also goes in line with koyama failing to make someone stronger than broly.
 
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Piccolo vs bojack
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Ssj vegeta vs bojack:
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Trunks gets defeated by bojack:
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ssj gohan vs fp bojack:
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ssj2 gohan vs fp bojack:
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Koyama said he and the staff were under the impression that Gohan kept training until it was revealed in the manga that he slacked off, so the movies should be scaled with that idea in mind. I don't think CG Gohan > Movie 9 Gohan due to this, but the opposite. Trunks would have leveled up a lot.
 

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Koyama said he and the staff were under the impression that Gohan kept training until it was revealed in the manga that he slacked off, so the movies should be scaled with that idea in mind. I don't think CG Gohan > Movie 9 Gohan due to this, but the opposite. Trunks would have leveled up a lot.
Do you think base bojack is stronger than ssj gohan or ssj trunks?
 

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Koyama said he and the staff were under the impression that Gohan kept training until it was revealed in the manga that he slacked off, so the movies should be scaled with that idea in mind. I don't think CG Gohan > Movie 9 Gohan due to this, but the opposite. Trunks would have leveled up a lot.
yes and he already said that on twitter

Bojack Full power > Gohan SSJ (M9)

Bojack Base > Vegeta SSJ and Trunks SSJ (Bojack is said stronger than Super Saiyan)
 

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I’d argue for FP Boobjack to be stronger than
FP PC actually.
 

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Base Bojack one shot Trunks and Gohan could fight Super Bojack. Gohan vs Trunks was only hyped because they were the two strongest and it would be a SSJ fight.
 

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Seems pretty obvious that he is.
If that is right, then piccolo proves to be capable of sending bojack flying and ssj vegeta despite of being weaker than in the CG is able to keep up with him while throwing ki blasts with him, vegeta is also able to make damage to trunks when he tries to help him, if anything the evidence goes pretty much against your claim of gohan being equally as strong as he was in the CG and trunks leveling up a lot
 

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Base Bojack one shot Trunks and Gohan could fight Super Bojack. Gohan vs Trunks was only hyped because they were the two strongest and it would be a SSJ fight.
Someone who is on par/as strong as trunks would have done the same like majin vegeta with ssj2 goku, we never get to see a fair match between ssj trunks and bojack.
 

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Someone who is on par/as strong as trunks would have done the same like majin vegeta with ssj2 goku, we never get to see a fair match between ssj trunks and bojack.

I think he could do better, but not a lot. He’s as strong as Vegeta, and Bojack transformed while beating him.

I wonder if Vegeta and Trunks could be stronger than in the Cell Games? Probably not because Vegeta is very depressed, but it would make the gaps in this movie better, though.
 

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If that is right, then piccolo proves to be capable of sending bojack flying and ssj vegeta despite of being weaker than in the CG is able to keep up with him while throwing ki blasts with him, vegeta is also able to make damage to trunks when he tries to help him, if anything the evidence goes pretty much against your claim of gohan being equally as strong as he was in the CG and trunks leveling up a lot
Movie Piccolo typically gets some shine for his fans so movie Piccolo isn't indicative of canon or anime Piccolo and vice versa.

Were you saying movie 9 Vegeta is weaker than Cell Games Vegeta? I'm not sure that's true. Even if he stopped training he could have just stalled.
 

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I think he could do better, but not a lot. He’s as strong as Vegeta, and Bojack transformed while beating him.

I wonder if Vegeta and Trunks could be stronger than in the Cell Games? Probably not because Vegeta is very depressed, but it would make the gaps in this movie better, though.
Vegeta is weaker because of lack of yuuki, bojack didn't actually need to transform vs vegeta and he went overkill, vegeta was destined to lose since the moment bojack pushed him back. Trunks would have done better than vegeta.
 

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Movie Piccolo typically gets some shine for his fans so movie Piccolo isn't indicative of canon or anime Piccolo and vice versa.

Were you saying movie 9 Vegeta is weaker than Cell Games Vegeta? I'm not sure that's true. Even if he stopped training he could have just stalled.
I think this piccolo is around CG 50% goku level of strength, he is shown to be weaker than vegeta.

Bulma calls vegeta useless, that alone goes on to show how low he has fallen in relation to before and trunks worries about vegeta's condition, it's clear vegeta is not intended to have the same strength as in the CG.
 
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I think this piccolo is around CG 50% goku level of strength.

Bulma calls vegeta useless, that alone goes on to show how low he has fallen in relation to before and trunks worries about vegeta's condition, it's clear vegeta is not intended to have the same strength as in the CG.
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She is not talking about his power level. Vegeta is useless as a partner because he isn't talking an active role in the family. Not everything is a power scaling statement.
 

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She is not talking about his power level. Vegeta is useless as a partner because he isn't talking an active role in the family. Not everything is a power scaling statement.
It is power level statement when you realize that the context speaks about him losing his desire to fight, point still stands
 

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Bulma can't sense power levels.
Future bulma isn't able to sense power levels yet we know by her that trunks is not that much different from gohan when he got killed by the future androids, which means that she has an idea of what she speaks about.
 

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Future bulma isn't able to sense power levels yet we know by her that trunks is not that much different from gohan when he got killed by the future androids, which means that she has an idea of what she speaks about.
Vegeta does not participate in the tournament in movie 9 though.
 
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