My theory; FP 2nd Form Freeza > Giant Slug ~ Weighted Piccolo(Post) > Initial 2nd Form Freeza

[Fantastische Hure]

Slug was said to be stronger than Freeza then which version of Freeza was that?

Probably not 100% Freeza.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Slug was said to be stronger than Freeza then which version of Freeza was that?

Probably not 100% Freeza.

Definitely not, but I've always thought it was Base Freeza. Here's the date of the movie anyway.

DBZ Movie 4: Super Saiyan Son Goku (Lord Slug)
Release Date: March 19, 1991
Manga Release (4 months back): "A Warrior’s Revival" (Nov 19, 1990)
Manga Release (6 months back): "The Last Wish" (Oct 15, 1990)
Latest Manga Chapter Release: "The Last Chance! An Extra-Large Genki-Dama" (Mar 18, 1991)
Between Episodes: #82 ("Sally Forth, Goku!! A Furious Freeza’s 2nd Transformation") - #83 ("Fear Me!! Freeza Does Battle With a 3rd Transformation")

I'm confused on which version does the movie follows, the manga or anime?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Slug was said to be stronger than Freeza then which version of Freeza was that?

Probably not 100% Freeza.

Definitely not, but I've always thought it was Base Freeza. Here's the date of the movie anyway.

DBZ Movie 4: Super Saiyan Son Goku (Lord Slug)
Release Date: March 19, 1991
Manga Release (4 months back): "A Warrior’s Revival" (Nov 19, 1990)
Manga Release (6 months back): "The Last Wish" (Oct 15, 1990)
Latest Manga Chapter Release: "The Last Chance! An Extra-Large Genki-Dama" (Mar 18, 1991)
Between Episodes: #82 ("Sally Forth, Goku!! A Furious Freeza’s 2nd Transformation") - #83 ("Fear Me!! Freeza Does Battle With a 3rd Transformation")

I'm confused on which version does the movie follows, the manga or anime?

On Kanzenshuu it says March 9th, so that'd be just before Piccolo showed his full-power and 3rd Form Freeza appeared.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Then SSJ2 should update that list then, so stronger than 3rd form Freeza? Also they follow the anime version?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Then SSJ2 should update that list then, so stronger than 3rd form Freeza? Also they follow the anime version?

If you ask Pakl, yeah. I don't know though. It'd be weird for Lord Slug to even be Initial True Form Freeza level considering it seemed to feature Goku (pre-Zenkai).

 

[KyuubiAhri]

come on guys,seriously?

 

[Pakl]

Then SSJ2 should update that list then, so stronger than 3rd form Freeza? Also they follow the anime version?

It follows the Anime because its non canon

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Then SSJ2 should update that list then, so stronger than 3rd form Freeza? Also they follow the anime version?

It follows the Anime because its non canon

What about it dip-shit?

 

[KyuubiAhri]

A guidebook (V-Jump, I believe) had a section stating Goku used it against Giant Slug.

V-jump is crap

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Still more supported than just random fan theories, not to mention lining up well enough to make sense. If you believe False SSJ measures up to even half of the SSJ multiplier, Giant Slug is still around such a level, so you'd need something far greater than that for a weakened Goku with some Ki from a weakened Piccolo to end up penetrating Slug with an unspecified level of Kaioken.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Still more supported than just random fan theories, not to mention lining up well enough to make sense. If you believe False SSJ measures up to even half of the SSJ multiplier, Giant Slug is still around such a level, so you'd need something far greater than that for a weakened Goku with some Ki from a weakened Piccolo to end up penetrating Slug with an unspecified level of Kaioken.

Yo! Do you think the movies follow the anime or the manga?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

In terms of lining up with current events? Manga, most likely, given my first post in this thread regarding Movie 5.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Btw, Slug was definitely referred to as a Super Namekian by Kaio in the Japanese version.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

*When Lord Slug first appears in front of Goku and Krillin*

Goku: "This Ki of his, it's distinctively different from that of anyone else I've felt before."

So that means Slug is diferent than any form of Freeza except the final form?

And here's more

*After Slug transforms*

Kaio-Sama: Unless I miss my guess, not even Freeza or perhaps even a Super Saiyan can stand up to him"

 

[Captain Cadaver]

*When Lord Slug first appears in front of Goku and Krillin*

Goku: "This Ki of his, it's distinctively different from that of anyone else I've felt before."

So that means Slug is diferent than any form of Freeza except the final form?

Not necessary, considering the Freeza Arc likely didn't happen in this timeline, though it would still be so via scaling if assuming M4 Goku = Namek Goku, or that M3 took place in this timeline.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

*When Lord Slug first appears in front of Goku and Krillin*

Goku: "This Ki of his, it's distinctively different from that of anyone else I've felt before."

So that means Slug is diferent than any form of Freeza except the final form?

Not necessary, considering the Freeza Arc likely didn't happen in this timeline, though it would still be so via scaling if assuming M4 Goku = Namek Goku, or that M3 took place in this timeline.

But King Kai mentioned Freeza in the movie though.

*After Slug transforms*

Kaio-Sama: Unless I miss my guess, not even Freeza or perhaps even a Super Saiyan can stand up to him"

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It's unlikely Kaio knew Freeza's full power. Freeza never trained and nobody other than his father had seen in true form according to himself. Kaio wouldn't be aware of his full power unless he was focusing on the area Freeza was in specifically.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

So are you saying that Freeza arc didn't happen at all? Then you're gonna have to explain Goku's strength since everything came from that arc itself.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

So are you saying that Freeza arc didn't happen at all? Then you're gonna have to explain Goku's strength since everything came from that arc itself.

If assuming it took place in the same timeline as Movies 2 and/or 3, that gives Goku 2-3 years at least to train after the Saiyan Arc. Even if not, there was at least 1 year for him to train, which is plenty of time to make an increase as great as 6 days of Gravity training if the plot demands it.

 

[Tapion]

Why should we assume the Freeza Arc didn't happen in M4's timeline? It's widely known that the movies draw their content from the anime, and when the movie was being produced the anime was at the battle against Freeza. Also, there was a consistent pattern of doing 3 movies for each saga of the anime at the time:

Spoiler

M1 = Saiyan Saga
M2 = Saiyan Saga
M3 = Saiyan Saga

M4 = Freeza Saga
M5 = Freeza Saga
M6 = Freeza Saga

M7 = Cell Saga
M8 = Cell Saga
M9 = Cell Saga

M10 = Boo Saga
M11 = Boo Saga
M12 = Boo Saga

If M4 is actually Post-Saiyan Arc, that would mean the Freeza Saga only got 2 movies. Kinda low for such an important saga.