Recent Chapter Discussion

[Papasmurf]

So what is Keflas multiplier, like 1.2x Kale?

 

[Animelover5487]

So what is Keflas multiplier, like 1.2x Kale?

Probably, seeing as Kale was already Blue tier or at least close enough. Gohan holding his own would at least prove that Goku and Freeza were holding back on Kale.

 

[Void]

More leaks.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1019994083115261952
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1019994691381497856
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1019995320657141760
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1019995521258176512

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Cabba and Caulifla identify Kale as the "legendary Saiyan". A "demon Saiyan" like this appears once every 1,000 years. Once they start rampaging, their ever-increasing power will eventually lead to their own destruction. So they try to stop Kale before she dies.

Interesting. Didn't Vegeta talk about this after Goku beat Racoome?

 

[Papasmurf]

Apparently Kale now has a typical grade 3 type weakness after slightly increasing her muscle mass

 

[Void]

Lol I guess Vegeta and Toppo randomly stopped fighting like they did in the anime.

Demonic Super Saiyan lmao

 

[Void]

Apparently Legendary or Demonic Super Saiyan threatens Kale's life.

 

[Papasmurf]

Apparently Legendary or Demonic Super Saiyan threatens Kale's life.

In b4 Broly destroys himself in the new movie :mikey :mikey

 

[Void]

Kale one shots Anilaza.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

It seems to me that they're purposely eliminating a lot of jobbers as soon as possible. No complain from me.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

All the worthless jobbers losing makes this far better than the anime as usual, as does Caulifla's possession of the Potara being for her own goals rather than Champa completely screwing the rules. Nice to see there's some actual consequence to Kale's berserk state rather than it just doing nothing.
Gohan stepping up at the end is a head scratcher though. If he's supposedly on par with Kefla in Ultimate, why didn't he try and stop Kale beforehand when he had a far better chance? Well, still not as bad an inconsistency as most of the anime.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Gohan is going to do something epic now.

 

[Animelover5487]

All the worthless jobbers losing makes this far better than the anime as usual, as does Caulifla's possession of the Potara being for her own goals rather than Champa completely screwing the rules. Nice to see there's some actual consequence to Kale's berserk state rather than it just doing nothing.
Gohan stepping up at the end is a head scratcher though. If he's supposedly on par with Kefla in Ultimate, why didn't he try and stop Kale beforehand when he had a far better chance? Well, still not as bad an inconsistency as most of the anime.

How strong would you put Berserk Kale and SSJ Kefla? Assuming Ultimate Gohan can hold his own against Kefla which it look like he will.

 

[Void]

4 universes were erased. :fearless

 

[Captain Cadaver]

How strong would you put Berserk Kale and SSJ Kefla? Assuming Ultimate Gohan can hold his own against Kefla which it look like he will.

Slightly below PSSB tier for Kale. Vegeta and Toppo may not have been severely affected by her rampage, though she was still great enough to be caught off guard and have Vegeta make comment on her power. It was implied SSJ Kefla wasn't far stronger, so more or less on PSSB tier, at least until Gohan being that strong gets directly contradicted.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Also Kale's power was said to be lowering, that's why it seemed the troopers could get the advantage.

And Kale's regular state is higher than Cauliflowa. I don't know wheter I noted that last chapte already.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dragon-ball-super-chapter-38/chapter/8448

Universe 6 is the main event right now!

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

If Gohan does hold his own against Kefla in Ultimate form, then he's above CSsjB Goku Tier by default because Kale alone was at that level, and Kahseral says that Kefla's moves are leagues above what the individuals have shown beforehand. Unless we want to believe Goku was astronomically holding back (which is not shown at all), Gohan is superior to Goku. I'm sure this will be retconned, but this will be marked as an inconsistency anyways, if it does get retconned. Frieza does say that he still didn't take Kale seriously but she still manages to badly injure him despite being alert.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I like the way they brought back this "demon Saiyan" thing which was from Vegeta's quote when Goku fought Racoome. They should've done this on anime as well but they just used to hyped Jiren even more.

 

[SIAD]

How strong would you put Berserk Kale and SSJ Kefla? Assuming Ultimate Gohan can hold his own against Kefla which it look like he will.

Slightly below PSSB tier for Kale. Vegeta and Toppo may not have been severely affected by her rampage, though she was still great enough to be caught off guard and have Vegeta make comment on her power. It was implied SSJ Kefla wasn't far stronger, so more or less on PSSB tier, at least until Gohan being that strong gets directly contradicted.

Then Golden Freezer would defeat Kale Berserker SSJ (FP), even if the latter could hold that power for a long time?

  Maybe: Goku / Vegeta PSSJB = Toppo = Golden Freezer = Kefla SSJ = Gohan Ultimate = Hit> Kale Berserker SSJ (FP)> Anilaza?