Rssj broly vs Initial perfect cell

[Future Warrior]

That explains it actually

SSJ Trunks : SSJ Grade 2 Trunks (1rst Rosat)

SSJ Vegeta : SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta (1rst Rosat)

SSJ Goku : 50% SSJ Goku (Cell Games)

SSJ Gohan : (Still Training in Rosat)

Piccolo : (Have no Idea, I assume he is around Semi-Cell)

 

[p123]

50% Goku is actually incredibly more powerful than Grade 2 Vegeta.

50% Goku could have possibly been Goku's FP at the time. We know his power in the warm up couldn't possibly be his full power.


Basically all the powers rival Grade 2 Vegeta and Trunks. M8 Goku would lose badly to Warm Up Goku ( Cell Games ) imo.

 

[Future Warrior]

Well, I wouldn't say he is stronger by a monstrous amount, but by a good deal. I'll use powerlevel's to make it easier to understand.

Trunks Grade 2 : 11,000,000,000

Vegeta Grade 2 : 12,000,000,000

50% SSJ Goku : 15,000,000,000

 

[p123]

No that's complete wrong.

Warm Up Goku is at least 1.5x superior to SSG2 Vegeta. Warm up Goku is on par with Cell's base power, which was able to easily dismantly Vegeta. Cell was more dominant over Vegeta than Gohan was over Cell.

Then there's the issue that 50% Goku is probably way stronger than Warm Up Goku.

 

[Future Warrior]

I dont necessarily see anything wrong with a 1.3x difference. And the gap between Grade 2 Vegeta and Initial Perfect Cell is even larger. In my opinion, Cell wasn't taking Goku seriously during the Warm-up.

If anything, Warm-Up SSJ Goku is stronger than 50% of his power, so it is what it is.

 

[p123]

The gap between Super Saiyan 2 Gohan and Cell is larger than the gap between Perfect Cell and Super Saiyan Grade 2 Vegeta. Agree or disagree?

 

[Future Warrior]

It would appear that way, yes. Though, SSJ2 Gohan did budge more to Cell's punch then when Cell got kicked by Vegeta.

 

[p123]

Ok, so Cell is what 60% of Gohan? More or less?

 

[Future Warrior]

Around there, yeah.

 

[p123]

Ok, so that makes us place SSG2 Vegeta at 50% of Cell then?

 

[Future Warrior]

I dont know. I tend to place Initial P.Cell 1.5x stronger than SSJG2 Vegeta. So that places their gap smaller than SSJ2 Gohan and Cell.

 

[p123]

Best way to tell that your numbers are wrong is when you don't even agree with them.

Cell/Vegeta > Gohan/Cell

You literally just admitted this.

 

[Future Warrior]

I see where your getting at. Well lets just say to each their own.

 

[Pakl]

Well, I wouldn't say he is stronger by a monstrous amount, but by a good deal. I'll use powerlevel's to make it easier to understand.

Trunks Grade 2 : 11,000,000,000

Vegeta Grade 2 : 12,000,000,000

50% SSJ Goku : 15,000,000,000

He is not 50%... There is no such thing as 50%... It was a power up.. He is equal to his initial MSSjin state when he was warming up and resting... The design shows it clear

It fits with RSSjin Broli being SSjinG3 Trunks level and stronger than M8 Goku Goku AKA Resting Goku

 

[p123]

Haha did you just take your ball and go home? You don't like being wrong huh? Don't run away I'm not done with you yet.

 

[Pakl]

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[p123]

That's to Ace Attorney. I prove him wrong and he quits debating lol

 

[Future Warrior]

Haha did you just take your ball and go home? You don't like being wrong huh? Don't run away I'm not done with you yet.

Haha, yeah you did get me. But in all honestly, it doesn't make much of a difference. Even if Cell is that much stronger, I could simply keep 50% Goku as he is and have his Warm-Up level even higher which puts him near Initial P.Cell.

 

[p123]

No, you actually can't. Want to know why?

 

[Future Warrior]

Sure, enlighten me.