Show me reasons why Goku Ssj3 (Boo) > Goku Base (Post-God)won't work

[kriss-]

Beerus: “You’re pretty good.
Beerus: “You really are something. Actually, I was thinking of attacking just now.
Beerus: "It's been a long time since I've used 10% or so of my full strength. Well, this was more fun than with that Saiyan over at North Kaio's place."

Beerus seems to be rather impressed with Goku's strength level as a Super Saiyan 3, he even remarks his bout' with him as being 'fun', which is always a reference to strength in the Dragonball world.

Beerus: “Super Saiyan God combined the power of five Saiyans together, and you completed it to make it your own, forcing me to use this much power. Keep this a secret, but…there was a moment there where I regretted having been so fixated on my prophetic dream.”

Beerus blatantly lied in this statement, so I see no reason to take anything he said here as an absolute fact. There is no reason for Goku Base Post-God to be as powerful as his Saiyan God self.

Context: Whis declines to take Vegeta to Beerus. Vegeta readies himself with the intention of using force, however...
Vegeta: "...What? It's like a ki without ki! It won't let me get near him! ... I can't attack!"

Vegeta showed the ability to be capable of detecting something from Whiss long before he is capable of actually sensing SSJG power completely, so it doesn't mean that Vegeta has to be at the level of Saiyan God just because he became more accustomed to sensing that type of energy.

Context: Whis returns to Beerus' planet with Goku.
Vegeta: "Has he returned?"
Oracle Fish: "Ah, so you're finally able to sense the ki of a god, huh?"

Now they can detect the Ki of gods.

Whis: "Those two have just barely reached the level where they can sense the ki of a god. If that castle up there were the level of the gods, then their power is only about this high. They need to raise the level of their ki without becoming Super Saiyan.

Whiss says they can barely sense God tier energy, and he also says that they don't compare to the level of Gods.

　17:10 | Cabba: "A blue..."
　17:12 | Vegeta: "This is the latest version, Super Saiyan Blue."
　17:18 | Vegeta: "Keep up your training, and one day you too might be able to reach this level."
　17:25 | Cabba: "I... could gain this power?"

Cabba was equal to Vegeta in his Base and Super Saiyan transformation, but Vegeta enters the realm of Gods when he transforms into his Super Saiyan God Blue transformation.

This proves that Goku & Vegeta's Base forms are not as powerful as their Saiyan God forms, because this clearly shows a tremendous difference in power between Base, SSJ & SSJG SS.

No, their Base forms are not anywhere close to God tier fighters and there is no reason that Goku's Base form has to be stronger than his Boo Saga transformation, nothing suggests that.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Everything you've just posted only shows that their Bases weren't as strong as their Super Saiyan God power.

How does that in any way imply it's not above Super Saiyan 3 from the Boo saga? You do realize Super Saiyan 3 is way outside of that godly realm, right?

You don't have to be God level to dwarf Super Saiyan 3 in power. I think you're making Super Saiyan 3 out to be more than what it really is. The form is quickly ditched in a similar way to the Grade forms because better alternatives exist.

 

[kriss-]

Vegeta was able to sense Godly Ki to a degree, and he wasn't anywhere close to God tier power, he was in his Base form.

Being able to sense God Ki doesn't make someone strong. The Kai's aren't strong and they can as well, so can Dende. Super Saiyan 3 brings the user to their limits, so it's essentially the maximum amount of energy Goku can output with normal Ki, he needs God Ki to go further.

There is no reason to have Base Saiyans so powerful.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Dende is a God himself, though a lesser one. Kaioshin and Kaio's can all sense because they're Gods.

Goku and Vegeta not only experienced a huge power-up training with Whis, but also training in that special room inside of Whis's staff that was filled with God Power.

Super Saiyan 3 is Goku's maximum before merging with the God Power. All of that changed when he absorbed the power. I don't see a reason why you'd have Freeza below Super Saiyan 3 Goku when the whole point was to show that he finally reached the Saiyans and eventually surpassed them.

 

[kriss-]

Vegeta was able to detect Whiss's Ki when he returned from training in space. He was not a god at this point. So you cannot argue that in order to sense God level Ki, you need to be a certain strength.

I still see Goku's natural limits with normal Ki being his strength level at Super Saiyan 3.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

He didn't actually sense his Chi there. He sensed an empty Chi, implying he could detect a presence of some sort from Whis.

Vegeta after training with Whis for six months has reached a level where he can now sense God Chi, as confirmed by the OF.

If Vegeta never trained with Whis, he would've never been able to reach a level capable of sensing God Chi. Likewise with Goku absorbing the God Power. He was able to detect Beers after Super Saiyan God wore off and sense them from then on. This means merging with the God Power gave him the ability to sense God Chi

 

[kriss-]

Toriyama has stated on several occasions that Goku can not get stronger than he was as a Super Saiyan 3. His bodies limits have been reached from utilizing normal Chi. God Chi is required to bypass these limitations. Without that type of Chi, Goku has been working to increase his base strength to a level approaching his Super Saiyan 3 self from the Majin Boo Saga, because his own body is still limited from using that same Chi. Vegeta makes a comment recently that their bodies are maxing out are unable to continually get stronger anymore. According to my theory, it's because normal Chi is no longer relevant to increase their strength and they require God Chi to forcibly amplify themselves. Toriyama hasn't forgotten about the established limits and there is no reason he would now.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I'm pretty Vegeta said that before they entered the rosat. He thought they were reaching their limits, but didn't Goku say otherwise

 

[kriss-]

Goku did not contradict Vegeta's opinion. We've also got Base Goku bringing up Oob and saying that he's excited to fight him when the time comes. This wouldn't be the case if Goku had bypassed his limitations of utilizing normal Chi. Surely, my ideas fit more in line with the story than against it. There are key reference points that prove so and the end of the Manga's serialization to boot.