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Never viewed it outside of the memes, though I may give it a shot when I'm not watching anything else.
 

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Do you think the prequels shouldve taken the time to cover things like dooku becoming a sith and darth plaguies betrayal by palpatine?
 

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Not really. Whilst they are interesting stories, they would detract from the main point of the prequels in showing Anakin's fall to the dark side and Palpatine's political machinations, bogging down the pacing. Dooku's reasoning for leaving the Jedi Order and joining Palpatine are already explained well in the scene of Padme discussing her assassination attempt with the Council and Dooku trying to convince Obi-Wan to join him respectively, and there isn't really much that needs to be explored with Palpatine's betrayal of Plagueis when the films make it clear on their own how betrayal is an inevitability for the Sith and there's not much showing it could do that isn't told efficiently in the opera house scene. Moreover, there is a lot of nice ambiguity to how true Palpatine's story is that would make adding Plagueis to RotS hurt it more than help.
 

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In the end, who is a better character between Goku and Gon? Considering that you've reevaluated Goku's characterization a few months ago, as well as the fact that they have quite similar moral codes (most importantly, how they're realistically balanced in terms of selflessness and selfishness), I figured this would be an interesting question.
 

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It's hard to say. In many ways, I'd see Gon as a slightly more grounded version of Kid Goku up until the Chimera Ant Arc where he displays a more distinctive difference when it comes to how they handle selfishness and rage. I'd probably is more consistent when considering Goku's flawed rationale for staying dead at the end of the Cell Arc is a noticeable dip in his character writing, though I would say the changes in dynamics that come between Goku and the rest of the cast is more interesting and has a more conclusive nature than what Gon has received if using the Election Arc as the cutoff point (seeing as how it'll probably be several years before we even see Gon again in the manga) from elements such as his fatherhood, role as a teacher and things coming full circle by the end with him being a grandfather as the original Gohan was and passing on the torch to the next generation. With each having a clear edge over the other in a certain aspect of character writing, I'm going to have to take the copout answer and say it's a tie, with both being initially similar protagonists who are written well and develop in their own distinct ways.
 

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What if Alan Keyes and Lord Appule merged? I’ll leave it up to you whether it’s Potara or Dance.
 

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thoughts on Moro now that the arc looks to be wrapping up?
GOAT villain. :ahshit

Oh, wait...

There's very little to say about him with how bland of a villain he is with his motivations being the same "conquer/destroy everything" mindset almost every villain in the franchise has had but without the characterisation that made many of them such as Piccolo Daimao and Freeza stand out. It also doesn't help his existence in itself is a giant plot hole when there's no reason he shouldn't have been released in Trunks' timeline, further showing why trying to create new threats within Universe 7 that aren't a direct result of Galu's actions is a terrible idea in a series that has a fairly linear chain of events for its multiple timelines. Moro's only real shining point is the potential his premise had in him needing to eat planets for energy in the same way Galactus does and using magic to combat raw power in a manner that could've been used to great effect in the Boo Arc had Toriyama focused on it. Instead, it gets revealed him eating planets isn't that necessary and the way he utilises his magic now is just him being really, really strong with typical techniques. An absolute waste.

As for the arc itself, it's terrible for reasons gone into heavily in the Recent Chapter Discussion thread. Multiple plot holes, Galu being poorly characterised, the distribution of Dai Kaioshin within Boo being muddled and the attempt to have the main cast do something being wasted against one-dimensional fodder. It does at least allow Vegeta have some moments of being characterised better than in the other DBS manga arcs, though even these are damaged by how forced his later spotlight is such as being said to be a prodigy born of hard work. It's hard to say if it's the worst arc of Super or not just yet. If some of the repercussions end up being permanent such as New Namek and Zoon's destruction, then I'd say it has enough worth to be barely better than the ToP and DBS Broly. :ha
 

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[mention]Captain Cadaver[/mention] There's no way the repercussions will be permanent. Moro's already devoured probably at least half of the 28 planets with life :troll in the cosmos, so they're definitely all getting wished back (especially when Vegeta vowed to not let another Namekian die early in the arc).
 

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Probably, though it'll probably depend on the wording of the wish and which Dragon Balls are used, seeing as how the only set left that can fully revive the Namekian population would be the Super Dragon Balls (unless Tracetaro forgets even about that rule :troll ).
 

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I doubt Tracetaro will forget about that rule, seeing as he at least remembered that wishes need to be spoken in Namekian and made Raspberry force that kid Namekian to translate his wishes to the dragon. As for how they'll collect the Super Dragon Balls, who knows. Maybe they'll have yet another tournament arc to decide who gets to wish on the SDBs to cement fully the fact that Super is just rehashing of terrible old concepts. :troll2
 

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At least rehashing a tournament (maybe with the other 4 universes joining in) would be a decent use of cause and effect to make the Moro Arc justify its existence, unlike the ToP which is essentially filler at this point. :ha
 

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How ironic do you find it that most European royals were probably some of the most genetically inferior people around due to repeated cousin marriages? :troll

It's interesting that East Asian royals generally didn't have this problem during the middle ages as most of them just married hot noblewomen and not some neighboring country's royalty that they're already related to.
 

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Fairly ironic, though I wouldn't say it's something exclusive to European royalty when the Egyptians were practising this to even greater degrees long before any other civilisations. A lot of it can also be attributed to the schisms within the church around the time as many rulers became Protestant, considering Christianity (mainly Catholicism) treats incest as a major taboo for good reason whereas Protestantism by design is very much the cherry-picking version of the religion.
It probably also comes down to Europeans generally being less scientifically advanced at the time than most of Asia, who'd always been a step ahead when it comes to scientific advancements with the exceptions of the 19th-early/mid 20th century.
 

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I'm not sure it's a problem with which branch of Christianity they believe in when Queen Mary of Britain was as Catholic as it gets, and she still married a relative (although she failed to produce children).
 

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Most likely. There certainly seems to be a greater divide between the far and moderate left than between both ends of the right, particularly when the former seem far more susceptible to embodying the typical SJW mentality of strawmanning moderate leftists and centrists as "alt-right nazis" and other buzzwords just because they don't fully agree with policies on some issues to the same extent; or, to quote the common phrase, are even slightly to the right of Karl Marx. Meanwhile, infighting and general civil unrest amongst each end of the political right seem to be fairly negligible despite the polarisation between some individuals and views on certain policies. This is somewhat inevitable, since both by design and implementation, right policies strive for order over chaos whereas the left thrive from order out of chaos, the latter of which don't work as long-term solutions (as though many historic examples such as the French/Russian revolutions didn't make this pretty blatant).
 
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