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I had my suspicions on that due to how America had less foreign interference than Britain post-Independence prior to immigration at the start of the 20th Century, though hadn't read anything official on the matter. It makes a lot of sense, given some American terms are closer to those of mainland Europe than current English (eg. "fries" instead of "chips", which is the same in languages such as French having "frite" as its equivalent).
 

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Things may very well change for the worse, considering Avdol would lack the capability to bait Vanilla Ice in the manner Polnareff did due to Magician's Red's speed not being that great. He may very well die against Cream all the same and help DIO defeat the Crusaders, leading to DIO ultimately achieving heaven with Pucci's aid and little to no obstacles.
Assuming Avdol somehow beat Vanilla Ice though (melting Iggy's sand to become glass for a projectile attack maybe?), he would most likely go with Joseph instead of Kakyoin due to these team-ups being more compatible duos. Due to this, neither he nor Joseph would get into the position to deduce what The World's ability was and end up being killed. Even should Kakyoin still learn it at the cost of his life, Jotaro would most likely lose due to the lack of Polnareff's distraction ruining his attempt at playing dead and preventing him from getting a good hit on DIO. That said, it still likely becomes a situation of DIO wins. Saying the pairs remain the same for the sake of the scenario though, Magician's Red would prove a decent distraction to DIO and result in him taking Polnareff's place in surviving Part 3. It seems doubtful he'd fill Polnareff's role in investigating Italy though due to him living far further away than Polnareff did. Assuming he did though through his time in Egypt allowing him to study the Stand Arrows well, he may fulfill Polnareff's role entirely, though it seems doubtful considering Avdol's not as well known for his tenacity as Polnareff and may very well die in his first encounter with Diavolo. If he does, then Passione would be given no direction to head in when it comes to looking for Diavolo and, even if they fend his subordinates off, they probably wouldn't get in the position to take down the boss himself.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Things may very well change for the worse, considering Avdol would lack the capability to bait Vanilla Ice in the manner Polnareff did due to Magician's Red's speed not being that great. He may very well die against Cream all the same and help DIO defeat the Crusaders, leading to DIO ultimately achieving heaven with Pucci's aid and little to no obstacles.
Assuming Avdol somehow beat Vanilla Ice though (melting Iggy's sand to become glass for a projectile attack maybe?), he would most likely go with Joseph instead of Kakyoin due to these team-ups being more compatible duos. Due to this, neither he nor Joseph would get into the position to deduce what The World's ability was and end up being killed. Even should Kakyoin still learn it at the cost of his life, Jotaro would most likely lose due to the lack of Polnareff's distraction ruining his attempt at playing dead and preventing him from getting a good hit on DIO. That said, it still likely becomes a situation of DIO wins. Saying the pairs remain the same for the sake of the scenario though, Magician's Red would prove a decent distraction to DIO and result in him taking Polnareff's place in surviving Part 3. It seems doubtful he'd fill Polnareff's role in investigating Italy though due to him living far further away than Polnareff did. Assuming he did though through his time in Egypt allowing him to study the Stand Arrows well, he may fulfill Polnareff's role entirely, though it seems doubtful considering Avdol's not as well known for his tenacity as Polnareff and may very well die in his first encounter with Diavolo. If he does, then Passione would be given no direction to head in when it comes to looking for Diavolo and, even if they fend his subordinates off, they probably wouldn't get in the position to take down the boss himself.

Wouldn't Magicians Red be better at combating king crimson than silver chariot? Even Polnareff was able to fight off King Crimson for a while.
 

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Magician's Red has more range, but is slower than Silver Chariot, not to mention Avdol likely wouldn't come up with something such as the blood tactic and a lot of the potential abilities he could use would be pretty ineffective in combating KC's time erasure.
 

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A handful of MCU questions.

1) Thoughts on the first Iron Man movie?

2) In case you have seen and remember both, which is better between the Pre MCU 2003 Hulk and the 2008 Incredibly Retconned Hulk?

3) Most underrated MCU film?
 

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1. The first Iron Man film is one of the better MCU films and definitely one of the less formulaic ones, featuring a lot of bold moves such as having the protagonist start out as pretty despicable before going through a solid character arc, coupled by the excellence of RDJ's natural charisma. Only real problem with it was Obadiah being pretty one-dimensional and Tony and Pepper surviving the climax being the result of some pretty heavy plot armour. Still a fairly solid 7/10 despite that.

2. Haven't seen either and the general consensus is that both are basically equally forgettable.

3. Probably Civil War considering it has arguably the most solid script out of any of the MCU films and is definitely the most thought-provoking and integrated with its world through it addressing superheroes' impact on society and the social/political repercussions behind such crime-fighters (even if not to the same extent as something like the Watchmen graphic novel or The Boys tv series), yet very rarely gets mentioned amongst the majority's favourite MCU film compared to ones such as The Winter Soldier, Infinity War or Endgame. I'd also offer the first Thor as an honourable mention since most treat it as a complete mediocrity, yet it does have a decent character arc for Thor and Loki has a lot more depth to him here than he would in other MCU appearances until Ragnarok.
 

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Is Last Order substantially better than part 1?
 

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Very much so. The only element in which I'd say the original is better is its realistic art style, though Last Order's art is still pretty good. Character writing, in particular, is where Last Order shines far above the original.
 

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The art in the first 10 chapters has been very good. Does it decline?
 

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If anything, it gets better from there, particularly in terms of backgrounds which arguably surpass the original. I'd still say the original Alita was better in terms of realism and shading though.
 

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I think anyone would answer a resounding yes. At least in the UK, some restrictions are being lifted though such as family gatherings now being allowed as well as the use of public transport (albeit, the latter being very limited in its services due to cutbacks).
 

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There're very few new cases in the UK, right? Maybe not little as in Australia or South Korea, but UK seems to be a country that handled the issue very well.
 

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Apparently in DB Wiki they are treating every "official" source as canon (even though AT outright said some aspects of the franchise weren't his story or part of an alternate dimension), including the Heroes game and anime. Why am I not surprised? :punk
 

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[mention]ahill1[/mention] There are fewer cases than in larger western countries such as the USA, Italy, etc. though I wouldn't say it's handled well. The biggest problem with the lockdown laws in the UK (and many other countries) is not judging each area in a case by case basis. For example, I live in a pretty small village in the countryside that had no more than 4 or 5 covid deaths (all of which were amongst the elderly demographic), so providing the same restrictions to both leisure and business as the big cities was a pretty dumb move.

[mention]Kenshi[/mention] Because DB Wiki is one of the furthest places to go if wanting quality DB discussion and information (unless wanting a quick search to more reliable links). What makes it even more ironic is that they have links to sources in Gogeta, Vegetto and Broly's articles that show a tweet of one of DBS Broly's staff saying the movie was Gogeta and Broly's introduction into canon if you so much as scroll slightly down. :ha
 

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Thoughts on MCU Thor? The character, not the movie.

By the way, is there a thread where you’ve discussed/reviewed the MCU and/or it’s characters prior?
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Thoughts on MCU Thor? The character, not the movie.
Thor was executed okay in his debut film, being an arrogant man in a luxurious lifestyle that had to learn how his power should be used and what it meant to be a hero, as well as being entertaining in being such a fish out of water. Much like Iron Man, however, the rest of his role in Phase One and the entirety of Phase Two is lacklustre with him being reduced to just some core character traits and being very static (though at least his characterisation wasn't a regression like Tony's). Ragnarok salvaged him by putting him through further trials in breaking down what his strength truly was and adding some tragedy in being unable to save his planet and losing his father, with Infinity War ramping that up further by presenting a melancholy to him behind the positive facade he puts up, presented best in the scene with him talking to Rocket about how he has nothing left to lose. This salvaging of his character is unfortunately ruined by Endgame though, with his depression being turned into a joke about being fat constantly and his arc of proving himself as being a worthy ruler being abandoned with him just giving it up to Valkyrie. His characterisation in Ragnarok/Infinity War still made him overall one of the better characters in the MCU, but his arc as a whole still had its rocky moments.

6.5-7/10

By the way, is there a thread where you’ve discussed/reviewed the MCU and/or it’s characters prior?
I've discussed the MCU in a lot of the threads about it, most notably SSJ2's MCU Watch thread. As for reviewing the films and/or characters, that's mainly been just in this thread and/or the "Rate the Last Film/TV Series You Finished Out Of 10" thread (though the ratings for Civil War and Endgame there are outdated).
As for rating characters, there's analysis on Thanos and Captain America on pages 163 and 177 of this thread respectively that still reflect my current thoughts. I've also briefly given my thoughts on a few MCU films here, though for a more concise and updated breakdown on films or characters, it's better to ask me directly.
 

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How do you think things would have changed if Jotaro had learned about his ability to stop time from the beggining in part 3?
 

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It probably wouldn't change much for the early events, considering the battles Jotaro participated in weren't ones where time stop would've played a major role beyond giving him an edge in escaping against Rubber Soul. In Egypt, it'd make Jotaro be able to defeat Daniel J. D'arby far easier considering D'arby would have little way of being able to prove Jotaro was cheating and the same would probably apply when facing Telence. Things mainly change when it comes to facing DIO as Polnareff would be able to immediately tell DIO had the same ability as Star Platinum, meaning Kakyoin wouldn't have to sacrifice himself, Jotaro would be able to take on DIO easier due to having improved his time stops and Part 3 concludes with a far easier battle (Avdol and Iggy still die though due to Jotaro being preoccupied with Telence).
Moving onto Part 4, there's little Jotaro himself could change. Kakyoin's survival, however, changes a lot as he'd likely volunteer to help out in Morioh, perhaps replacing the Speedwagon agent giving Jotaro information before fully getting involved once Joseph arrived. Kakyoin would relate to Josuke quite a lot due to how their Stands would've made relating to others difficult and perhaps act as a mentor figure to him and Koichi. Of course, he'd also go on the Milf hunt due to Josuke's mom. A long range Stand like Hierophant Green would also allow the group to track down Kira before he could switch faces with Kosaku, leading to Part 4's plot ending a lot earlier.
This could open up the possibility for Kakyoin being present in Part 5 if Polnareff gets in touch with him. If so, the pair of them may defeat Diavolo at the Collosseum due to Hierophant's range and Chariot's piercing strength proving something Diavolo couldn't counter with Epitaph unless fate asspulls him a way out of things. Assuming Kakyoin survives or doesn't participate, then the Speedwagon foundation would reach out for him in Part 6 and his involvement may be enough for Jotaro to kill Pucci, seeing as how Hierophant Green's range may prevent Pucci's knife tactic from working.
 

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