Since the bandwagon for this has appeared...

[Papasmurf]

Most likely Stroheim as long as he doesn't get overconfident. He was built to surpass Santana in physical strength (who should be stronger than Dio via the pecking order of Pillar Men >> Vampires) and his Ultraviolet eye cannon was made specifically to kill both Vampires and Pillar Men; with it bringing the battle to an abrupt end if he gets a direct hit through Dio's brain. Dio's vampiric abilities wouldn't be that useful here either, since he can't freeze much of Stroheim's bloodstream and even resorting to Space Ripper Stingy Eyes likely wouldn't land a fatal blow due to the cybernetics and its aim being unreliable if not done at quite close range. If this is Stroheim after the Speedwagon foundation further upgraded him for the final showdown with Kars, he oneshots since his new Ultraviolet Shoulder Cannons give him far more range to simply burn Dio with ease.

So since I've just been debating rather than asking questions for the past few posts, I'll ask: Why do you think the Speedwagon Foundation didn't supply the Part 3 JoJo team with UV technology, despite them traveling to Dio's mansion specifically to destroy a vampire? It obviously wouldn't bear much fruit unless used as a surprise attack against Ice or something when he emerges from Cream's mouth, and Dio would probably just timestop before he's exposed to the rays, but it's not like anyone even knew what Dio's power was at that point, so...

 

[Captain Cadaver]

even SPTW's stand stats (barring stamina/lasting power) aren't different from regular Star Platinum's

You seem to be forgetting Part 6 rates SPTW's developmental potential at E as opposed to it being A at the start of Part 3. The World's stats also reflect this as, even with the natural superiority a vampire body provides in timestop potential, its overall potential was a tier lower than SP's initial self.

but it really didn't seem like SP was leagues above HG at the time of their battle.

SP basically ragdolled Hierophant once he got in range to tag him. This is also reflected in their Stand stats as early as their introduction, with Star Platinum being at least a tier above Hierophant Green in everything but range.

So since I've just been debating rather than asking questions for the past few posts, I'll ask: Why do you think the Speedwagon Foundation didn't supply the Part 3 JoJo team with UV technology, despite them traveling to Dio's mansion specifically to destroy a vampire? It obviously wouldn't bear much fruit unless used as a surprise attack against Ice or something when he emerges from Cream's mouth, and Dio would probably just timestop before he's exposed to the rays, but it's not like anyone even knew what Dio's power was at that point, so...

The most likely answer is that the UV technology was made at a time when vampiric enemies were still a real threat even after the defeat of Dio (eg. causing George Jr's death), not to mention already having SEKAIICHI GERMAN SCIENCE to use as a template. By comparison, vampires and Pillar Men were a thought of the past by the time of Part 3 with the time given to prepare not being that much after being made aware of DIO's return and what template they could use having long since been lost somewhere in Russia. On top of this, trying such a surprise attack would be ineffective due to Joseph's knowledge DIO was constantly spying on him with Jonathan's Stand and DIO was cautious enough to not leave his mansion needlessly as it is. There's also the question of how long it'd take to develop some from scratch that wouldn't be cumbersome enough for an enemy to easily target or inaccurate enough to be more than a gamble, of which is asking a lot when having less than 50 days.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

In case you have kept up with WandaVision, either by watching it or mere hearsay, thoughts?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Haven't seen it beyond the trailers, though the major problem it has right from the get-go is the timing. Bringing this out after Infinity War was a pretty bad decision when Vision's death killed what interest could be found in showing the development of their relationship (not to mention it should've been developed properly in the films rather than relying on a spinoff series). The presentation of this "fake reality" of sorts is an interesting one, though it seems doubtful to be something to tie significantly into new entries of the MCU.

 

[Ultimate Cell]

Your thoughts on Maragret Thatcher?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Haven't seen it beyond the trailers, though the major problem it has right from the get-go is the timing. Bringing this out after Infinity War was a pretty bad decision when Vision's death killed what interest could be found in showing the development of their relationship (not to mention it should've been developed properly in the films rather than relying on a spinoff series). The presentation of this "fake reality" of sorts is an interesting one, though it seems doubtful to be something to tie significantly into new entries of the MCU.

If you’re in for the joke the ending turned out to be, check the spoiler.

Spoiler

In episode 5 they brought Quicksilver back, but played by Evan Peters. Everyone thought this meant a crossover with Fox’s X-Men, and rightfully so since the series is said to tie-in with Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. The ending comes and he’s literally just a brainwashed guy named Ralph Bohner

I always knew he was just bait, but the ending is so bad the erection joke was the best part. The series is mostly a really interesting character study on how Wanda copes with her traumas by making herself and a depressed small town live inside her favourite sitcoms, but it all goes down the drain because there’s a evil witch who doesn’t like her and has a bad 30 minute CGI fight with her in the last episode. At least the ending is sweet since she comes to terms with Vision’s death and unmakes the sitcom spell, unmaking him and their twin kids.

The show also gets dragged down by showing us what’s happening outside the sitcom. There’s some military trying to get in and a suspicious bad guy called Hayward. The show tries to tells us the origin story of Monica Rambeau (aka the true female Captain Marvel), and while she’s one of the best characters in the show, it’s just set up for Captain Marvel 2. Jimmy Woo from Ant-Man and Darcy from Thor are also back and they funny.

Back on Hayward, while he seemingly had good motivations (Wanda is holding a town hostage ffs), he’s just fairly unlikeable in general, lying to everyone by saying Wanda stole Vision’s mortal remains (She made a new one), trying to get Monica and co. arrested, and shooting Monica and Wanda’s kids on sight for trying to help Wanda. There were silly theories he was Ultron or Red Skull disguised, which really would’ve given him a bit more depth than this.

Hayward does use the Vision he has to recreate him, leading to a fairly good Vision vs Vision fight. They solve it by talking about philosophy! I think you’d need to watch the scene to see how good it was.

There is no “Luke Skywalker in Mandalorian” level cameo though. This was a flat out lie.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

[mention]Ultimate Cell[/mention] Thatcher can be described as being good economically for the nation, but mixed at best on social policies as well as more isolated economical incidents. Britain certainly had a strong economy under her policies when it came to things such as housing industries and, if taken at face value, her stance of moral absolutism, nationalism and individualism would have provided great strength to the nation as a whole and certainly seems like it could've combated the growing Marxism that had infiltrated the country for a long time had that been her goal. It's clear much of her policies had a poor effect on the working class, however, with mainly parts of England (primarily the north) still holding strong disdain for her policies regarding the miners and the execution of her economic ideas kept more of a clear class divide rather than allowing for greater equal opportunities or meritocratic additions. It also can't be ignored how close of a friend she was with a :withheld like Jimmy Savile which, combined with what else is known of the BBC and several prominent political figures dating as far back as the early 20th Century, shows she certainly did the opposite of combating the moral corruption going on within politics and the media that continues to this day.
There's also the whole matter of the Falklands War. Its beginning was understandable when it was a territory of which British ownership hadn't been contested since the 19th Century, though the political unrest it caused for Argentina as a whole after their defeat was a damaging blow for them. Furthermore in retrospect, the Falklands status by the end of the war didn't change at all with it being an self-governing Argentine province that was a British territory in name only and certainly didn't justify the casualties senselessly lost on both sides.

[mention]GreatSaiyaman123[/mention] Even leaving aside the many contrivances and pointless bait and switches within that, it seems pretty strange in the first place that they'd try and go with the direction on Wanda suffering with her losses rather than moving on when she'd already seemed to have made a step in having moved on at the end of Endgame :nickyoung
If it had alluded to a Fox X-Men crossover for Multiverse of Madness, it might have been redeeming though (though most of all because this would go more towards the wider goal of finally getting Tobey Maguire in the MCU ).

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

@GreatSaiyaman123 Even leaving aside the many contrivances and pointless bait and switches within that, it seems pretty strange in the first place that they'd try and go with the direction on Wanda suffering with her losses rather than moving on when she'd already seemed to have made a step in having moved on at the end of End :nickyoung

I think the series actually does a good job explaining that, specially when that scene in Endgame can be seem as fake optimism. Plus it's not just Vision death that haunts her, but also Quicksilver's and her parents'.

If it had alluded to a Fox X-Men crossover for Multiverse of Madness, it might have been redeeming though (though most of all because this would go more towards the wider goal of finally getting Tobey Maguire in the MCU ).

There's a common theory that Tobey Maguire could show up as Uncle Ben, but the way things are going he might as well be playing Ben Dover 2

 

[Ultimate Cell]

Whats ur opinion on Winston Churchill?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I think the series actually does a good job explaining that, specially when that scene in Endgame can be seem as fake optimism. Plus it's not just Vision death that haunts her, but also Quicksilver's and her parents'.

Seems like a bit of a retcon to just write it off as fake optimism, plus her coping with Quicksilver's death definitely should have been more present in the films if that was the case, further adding to how strange the placement for a character study of Wanda being post-Endgame is. As irrelevant as the upcoming Black Widow film will be, it at least chose a decent point in the timeline to act as a character study for its lead (though obviously there weren't many choices when it came to Natasha).

Whats ur opinion on Winston Churchill?

A completely overrated leader and prime minister, not to mention dishonest. He completely refused the multiple peace talks Hitler proposed that could've heavily reduced the casualties of WWII (particularly the atrocities of the Dresden Bombing) despite having praised both his and Mussolini's political theories prior to the war, yet (like FDR) was more than willing to align with Stalin despite knowing how much more damaging communism would be to the west and what has ultimately led to its downfall in modern times; primarily due to his reliance on favours and gifts of his supporters who opposed a peaceful end to the war (and it wasn't as though his tendency to rely on such bribes for political and economic favours was a well kept secret). His statements about "uncivilised tribes" such as the Kurds, Afghans and many Africans were also very suspect, as was his involvement in occult organisations such as the British Society of Druids and Freemasons. His ideas on social Darwinism also presented some cognitive dissonance when it came to his spiritual beliefs with his idea that White Protestants were superior to White Catholics in terms of societal strength, despite the inherent inconsistencies of the protestant ideology coupled with the occultism that's by default incompatible with any faithful denomination of Christianity (not to mention the examples of Catholic military campaigns show far greater strength than those primarily bound by Protestant ideology in terms of overcoming odds, such as the Battle of Lepanto).
Despite those points against him, he was still better than the majority of prime ministers to succeed him, though very overrated in comparison to those before him and the flaws of his career have far more impact in retrospect than what positive policies he had.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Expectations for Zack Snyder’s Justice League?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I'd say it'd be overly optimistic for his direction to turn a joke of a film into a good one when it'd require a complete rehaul of the script from the ground up, but I'd say the odds are it'll at least be an improvement on the theatrical cut by a fair margin. Snyder may have issues with competency when it comes to executing lofty ideals such as his take on Luthor in BvS or some issues he had in understanding the characters created by other people in MoS as well as even Watchmen slightly, though he isn't quite as poor a writer/director as people make him out to be as long as he doesn't try too hard to add his own flair to the film.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I'd say it'd be overly optimistic for his direction to turn a joke of a film into a good one when it'd require a complete rehaul of the script from the ground up, but I'd say the odds are it'll at least be an improvement on the theatrical cut by a fair margin. Snyder may have issues with competency when it comes to executing lofty ideals such as his take on Luthor in BvS or some issues he had in understanding the characters created by other people in MoS as well as even Watchmen slightly, though he isn't quite as poor a writer/director as people make him out to be as long as he doesn't try too hard to add his own flair to the film.

Given how the main antagonist ended up a completely different guy and the movie will now be 4 hours long, I think it will be a completely different beast. Early reviews also say it's much more like BvS, but that's not much better. And between leaks and promotional images the CGI for backgrounds seems to be down horrendous...

Either way, real CHADS should be excited for his next movie instead: Army of the Dead, streaming on Netflix in may

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Do you have a MCU movie ranking? If so, please do share. And don't forget to put the ratings from 1-10 if you also have them :elmo

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Do you have a MCU movie ranking? If so, please do share. And don't forget to put the ratings from 1-10 if you also have them :elmo

Top Tier
Captain America: Civil War - 7.5/10
Avengers: Infinity War - 7.5/10

High Tier
Iron Man - 7/10
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - 7/10

Upper-Mid Tier
Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2 - 5.5/10
Thor: Ragnarok - 5.5/10
The Avengers - 5.5/10

Low Tier
Avengers: Age of Ultron - 4.5/10
Avengers: Endgame - 4/10
Spider-Man: Far From Home - 4/10

Bottom Tier
Iron Man 3 - 2/10
Black Panther - 2/10
Captain Marvel - 1/10

Those I didn't list either went into mid tier by default of being very average, by the books superhero flicks or it having been long enough since I saw them I can't offer a concise idea of where I'd rank them.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

So Black Panther is that bad huh? And I just know you didn't put the GOAT Incredible Hulk because it's too far above the tiering system to be considered :cc

Why do you think Civil War is the best? It is pretty good, but between the occasionally awful CGI (the backgrounds in the airport where ), the movie suddenly treating Tony and Steve as best friends and the final battle relying on a tantrum from Tony's part, it doesn't quite live up to it's predecessor.

I think the two best movies were the Guardians ones, but you have them on mid tier... The only real problem with them to me was Ronan being absolute FODDER in the first movie, but Vol. 2 fixes that with the somewhat better Ego.

 

[Papasmurf]

With the aftermath of those Trump-supporting extremists causing a riot at the capitol (regardless of the fact that Trump himself got off because he had no direct involvement and had not spoken anything directly to GASLIGHT those rioters) and Biden's election, how do you think America (and the rest of the West in general) can fight the regressive left, and to a lesser extent, outdated leftist policies in general? Many black conservatives raise an excellent point that because of the political shift between Repubs and Democrats in the 60's and the fact that Democrats/leftists have done an admittedly excellent job in convincing older black Americans (as well as most younger ones) that the policies they enact are helping blacks, Repubs have so far felt that they don't necessarily need the black vote to win elections - and as we know, another 2 to 4 leftist wins can only mean MORE leftist (and regressively racist) policies like AA and systematic welfare policies, and uniformly higher minimum wage policies etc. will be in effect (even though they price a lot of the poor and impoverished out of jobs)... and that can't mean good things for America and the west at large. They've only backfired before, and because we almost without thinking credit things like AA for increasing minority representation (when it just increases student debt and dropout rates for blacks/Latinos and limits Asians even when they qualify, unironically benefit white women etc.), and because Biden has spoken in favor of things like BLM before, we can only expect more and more of the same under administrations like his. What could Republicans do to fight this? It's not like I don't think Republicans are flawed or anything like that, I'm obviously just against more administrations of PC and the mess that leftist identity politics and narratives create. Especially considering that in States where AA was outlawed ages ago like Cali and NY, leftists/socialists have tried to bring it back and failed, and while I do see it being outlawed entirely at some point, it can only stay in effect longer (along with toxic mentalities like modern-day feminism) under Biden and his bootlickers.

While I do see many downsides of the Trump administration, it did to its credit put more conservative judges in office despite only being 4 years long, allowing less of a liberal monopoly on politics and the justice system... yet at the rate things are going, we can only see more leftist pushes, especially if Kamala Harris becomes president as well after Biden's current term or his next prospective term.

It also doesn't help that the college-age and younger adult populations (25-35 year olds) tend to swing overwhelmingly to the left, and that leftists have gained a monopoly in conversations in the education system - and many of those leftists (including my own brother) uniformly detest the entirety (or near-entirety) of the right as racists while parroting ridiculous viewpoints like the police being out to oppress blacks - and obviously the rise of movements like the alt-right haven't been able to quell them, nor have moderates like centrists been successful in gaining fair representation over the left. And it also doesn't help that a lot of people who despise the left are old and religious, and it's easy to paint people like that as just backwards - which leftists have been largely successful in. You can look at forums like Serebii/Bulbagarden, the old DBZF and such (not to mention the joke that is [mention]sei'taer[/mention]) to see the cesspools they become under the left, to the point that centrist voices like mine become "bigots" and "trolls" - and if that isn't a worrying trend, I don't know what is. For all of our memes about [mention]p123[/mention]'s dumb heel turn, I don't think heel turns like that are as uncommon as you'd think either, with the intellectual monopoly the left has over college-age educational policies.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

So Black Panther is that bad huh?

Yeah. Its world building is absolutely nonsensical and presents a common problem of modern Hollywood walking on eggshells when it comes to pandering instead of realism (why would a tribe with technology far above any other civilisation not expand their territory when virtually every civilisation, regardless of race or culture, has tried to conquer all it can obtain?) and the attempts to add some cultural flare to things ends up being very inconsistent (a civilisation supposedly benevolent enough to not conquer anyone else somehow still practises outdated trial by combat laws? Also, why do these Wakandans bother farming rhinos compared to...anything else? ). A lot of character motivations are also very messy (T'challa suddenly being arrogant and stupid after the calm and mature outlook he gained by the end of Civil War, Killmonger making it no secret his supposedly just plan involves killing children, etc.).

Why do you think Civil War is the best? It is pretty good

It has perhaps the most coherent writing out of the MCU films with payoffs to a lot of previous events such as the repercussions of Sokovia or how Tony's views have become twisted (Cap giving him the same "I can do this all day" line he did to the bully in his debut film) and did a far better job than the others in making the social repercussions of superheroes in a world of normal humans feel involved and grounded. Zemo was also the best villain in the MCU until Thanos through having the realistic and sympathetic motivation of doing more than conquest or destruction, having suffered a loss that would make targeting the Avengers understandable and chooses the more realistic goal of trying to turn them against themselves.

the movie suddenly treating Tony and Steve as best friends and the final battle relying on a tantrum from Tony's part

Tony's motivations are understandable when considering how big of an impact his father's presence (or lack thereof) left on his life and outlook, making him the flawed character he was. He can be a pretty impulsive character at times too (leading to the creation of Ultron with little thought of a backup plan), so him throwing everything to the wayside when getting hit with the bombshell that his father always cared for him and that so much of his own misgivings were caused by the Winter Soldier is pretty in line with his character.

I think the two best movies were the Guardians ones, but you have them on mid tier... The only real problem with them to me was Ronan being absolute FODDER in the first movie, but Vol. 2 fixes that with the somewhat better Ego.

The Guardians films have good character chemistry, but the plot of both of them are pretty standard in their execution of a motley crew becoming a family to each other, especially with 2 retreading a lot of ground from the first film in that area.

[mention]Kenshi[/mention] It would be very difficult when even the modern "right" wing tends to be very centrist or left-leaning on certain issues and most politicians with genuine right-leaning policies get discredited by media biases. A good example of this is Pat Buchanan, who was essentially what most of the right hoped Trump would be, who mainstream media outlets did all they could to discredit without properly rebuking his policies and beliefs due to how he was a genuine supporter of most right leaning policies. It's also important to note that most SJW policies are backed up by many brands and companies to push their agenda, as well as most education systems. Frankly, the only way to bring things back to a more balanced standing is simply for those combating this gradual descent into Marxism to be more fervent in doing so, as perhaps the biggest contributor to it is the herd mentality and peer pressure that comes from conforming to an idea that's pushed as the norm (of which those pushed by big names in politics and media often will be treat as).

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Yeah. Its world building is absolutely nonsensical and presents a common problem of modern Hollywood walking on eggshells when it comes to pandering instead of realism (why would a tribe with technology far above any other civilisation not expand their territory when virtually every civilisation, regardless of race or culture, has tried to conquer all it can obtain?) and the attempts to add some cultural flare to things ends up being very inconsistent (a civilisation supposedly benevolent enough to not conquer anyone else somehow still practises outdated trial by combat laws? Also, why do these Wakandans bother farming rhinos compared to...anything else? ). A lot of character motivations are also very messy (T'challa suddenly being arrogant and stupid after the calm and mature outlook he gained by the end of Civil War, Killmonger making it no secret his supposedly just plan involves killing children, etc.).

I think all this world building stuff only makes Wakandian culture even more exquisite, being both advanced and backwards. I mean, the point of the movie is that Killmonger thinks it's bullshit they never tried to expand their influence in any way.

But on the other hand, this movie also has the most generic love interest ever. They got a fucking Oscar winner actress to be the most irrelevant character of the movie ffs :umad


I started a MCU cronological order watch a while ago, but so far I only watched First Avenger and Captain Marvel. I'd say TFA is a pretty standard 5/10 action flick with mediocre CGI, and albeit BORING, Captain Marvel isn't a 1/10. I think Brie Larson and Samuel L Jackson had good chemistry in it, and it was good to see the Skrulls as refugees instead of the one dimensional body snatchers-esque villains of the comics (though I do prefer them as villains). In fact, I dare to say CM portrays war better than TFA (Captain America, not Star Wars) does with the Kree-Skrull War. I think Captain Marvel is a 3 or 4/10.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I think all this world building stuff only makes Wakandian culture even more exquisite, being both advanced and backwards. I mean, the point of the movie is that Killmonger thinks it's bullshit they never tried to expand their influence in any way.

Having one character point out this inconsistency doesn't really help without a proper rationale being given

Also, forgot to mention it has the most cringey line in the MCU with the use of the "What are thooooose?!" meme .

I started a MCU cronological order watch a while ago, but so far I only watched First Avenger and Captain Marvel. I'd say TFA is a pretty standard 5/10 action flick with mediocre CGI, and albeit BORING, Captain Marvel isn't a 1/10. I think Brie Larson and Samuel L Jackson had good chemistry in it, and it was good to see the Skrulls as refugees instead of the one dimensional body snatchers-esque villains of the comics (though I do prefer them as villains). In fact, I dare to say CM portrays war better than TFA (Captain America, not Star Wars) does with the Kree-Skrull War. I think Captain Marvel is a 3 or 4/10.

I rate Captain Marvel so low primarily for how it ruins the MCU's continuity. Leaving aside how Cap's status as the "First Avenger" is made sketchy by it, it outright contradicts Nick Fury's statement in the first Avengers film that discovering Thor and Loki made it apparent "We weren't alone in the universe, and are severely outmatched." It also ruins the implications from The Winter Soldier of Fury losing his eye due to some deep betrayal...as opposed to just being careless with an alien cat thing. The other big problem with it is how poor Carol's character is handled, going through an amnesia plot throughout most of the film, relying on power she didn't earn all the way after the first act and the climax of the film involving her just realising "hurr durr I'm a strong wahmen" without any real character development to the point she's almost as much of a Mary Sue as Rey.

For a more thorough breakdown of the problems in the film there's this video (since covering all of them would lead to a tier post):

Spoiler

[youtube]Keooxe5x6Ts[/youtube]

 

[Papasmurf]

Why do you think both Ido and Nova seem to be in their late 30s and 40s-50s respectively despite it being stated that people from Zalem/Tiphares are modified so they don't age (from a pretty young age too, judging by Lou missing her brain)?