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excluding anime/animated shows.
 

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Gin said:
excluding anime/animated shows.
Haven't watched too many live action shows, so...

#1 - Three Kingdoms
#2 - Game of Thrones (Seasons 1-4 only. Seasons 5-7 are trash)
#3 - Mindhunter
#4 - Monty Python's Flying Circus
#5 - Blackadder

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What do you think about Hisoka ?
Hisoka is a man with simple goals; just to fight and kill strong opponents. However, that's not to say his character is simplistic or average, as it instead allows him to be a standout in a series home to characters with very complex or aloof goals and personalities. Hisoka is insanity presented well due to it not being confused or merged with the illogical. He can be psychotic and sexually deviant whilst still being charismatic, funny and tactical, as well as very intelligent in how he strings together his lies, only slipping up if it's intentional. Whilst little is known about his past, we can piece together many things to show his character arc. His ruthless and sadistic nature combined with his childish ideas for techniques like Bungee Gum or his genuine care for Machi would suggest he may have not been too different to Gon and that there would've been some traumatic moment or series of developments to create the stark contrast between the two characters. At the very least, it shows that there are more layers to Hisoka than we see at face value.
I also praise the way in which Togashi uses Hisoka sparingly. His screentime after the Hunter's Exam is never too much, allowing him to always carry a sense of importance and steal the show when he appears. For instance, him playing a fairly minimal role in Greed Island allowed for his role in the Dodgeball game to seem satisfying, whilst his absence from the Chimera Ant Arc helped him be the one positive in the Election Arc and keep the events of the arc engaging (that, and Killua's role of course). Hisoka is overall a very entertaining character and whilst he has yet to be developed fully or have his past revealed, he works well at what he does and still shows some level of complexity despite his simplistic attitude and is overall my third favourite character in the series.

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What series that has an anime-adaptation, but not a good one, would you like to see have a good one? Besides Berserk :donovan :donovan :donovan
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
What series that has an anime-adaptation, but not a good one, would you like to see have a good one? Besides Berserk :donovan :donovan :donovan
Would say Devilman since the previous adaptions never got to the climax of the manga and tended to change a lot of things to make the TV series and OVA typical superheroics and edgy gorefests respectively. However, given the new Devilman Crybaby anime may fix this, I'll exclude it.

In that case, I'd probably go with either Ichi the Killer or Kinnikuman. Ichi's only anime adaptation was a rushed one of it's prequel, so it definitely deserves better. Kinnikuman's anime adaptation was a decent one for a Toei title, but still had faults such as Kinkotsuman and Iwao slowing down the pace as gag characters far after their role in the manga had ended, some poor filler and the shipping of the last arc making little sense and being far different from the manga (though the anime's finale still made more sense than the manga's). The sequel, Kinnikuman Nisei (known as Ultimate Muscle in the west) also got the Toriko treatment, reducing all the violence and ending with a generic filler ending, as well as not adapting the last arc which is the one that cemented the manga as being the rare case of a good sequel. An anime reboot for Kinnikuman with an updated artstyle and no fillers would work well, especially if it tweaks a few continuity problems or adds some foreshadowing, much as the anime for JoJo Part 3 did. Nisei could also use one as well, or at least an adaption of the Demon Seed Arc. If Dragon Ball can get a sequel, it's only fair that a Shonen just as influential on the demographic, if not moreso due to actually inspiring a lot of DB's plot, definitely needs some love (not to mention it's an infinitely better superhero series than that ripoff My Hero Academia that Shonentards are eating up).

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What do you think about Scar ?
Scar is a character with a clear goal, but many layers. His vengeance is an obvious trait and whilst something the audience can root for in occasions such as his battle with Wrath, it's how it's executed that makes him a good character. Within universe, he's called out as a hypocrite, which excuses his flaw, plus he isn't self centred in his vengeance, accepting his flaws when confronted by Winry. Like Ed, he also makes many compromises to achieve his goals such as his alliances with numerous Alchemists part of the main plot, such as Marcoh or the Elrics.
The most interesting aspect to him is his view on religion. Within him can be seen a conflict as to what level of theistic faith he has, or how he percieves himself. He kills in the name of god, but also feels he has abandoned that god due to abandoning his name. Whilst this can seem contradictive at first glance, it shows he doesn't see himself with much worth. This also creates an engaging conflict during the battle between him and Wrath; the man of god vs the man who refutes god, with the ending of their battle offering much to be speculated as to whether God sided with Scar or if it were a lucky coincidence.
His development was greatly executed, as with his compromises and alliances, he begins to see that Amestris isn't truly a land of evil and by the story's end, has reached a path to restore peace rather than insight violence, helping him seem like a complete character with much catharsis.

8/10
 

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Are you excited for Devilman Crybaby or does the changed artstyle turn you off?
 

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Don't particularly like the change in art style, but after ClanGI or the LotGH reboot, I can accept it. With Yuasa as director, I don't see how they could fuck this adaption up beyond aesthetic choices. I can already say it'll be the best anime of 2018 at least, though that's not really much of a difficult accomplishment.
 

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How do you feel about the fact that it'll be covering 1 volume per 2 episodes? Would you prefer there be at least 13-15?
 

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The early volumes are fast paced enough that they can squeeze the content of each into 2 episodes with the right direction, especially considering the last volume features a lot of single panel pages. Even if they take a few liberties like the 2012 JoJo anime did and gloss over some details, It'd still be a better adaption than the previous ones if it actually covers the manga's entirety or gives more focus to the themes than the action.
 

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Do you worry that some of the gruesome scenes in the final volume might get censored to fit today's censorship standards?
 

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Not too much considering it's an ONA and not a TV series, plus whilst there's no series on Netflix where I'd say the violence is as explicit as the Devilman manga, there are a few live action ones that hold few punches. At the very least, I don't think the censorship will be unbearable.
 

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Johan is a good representation of the nature vs nurture debate of Monster, representing the former. From his actions in the plot and psychopathic nature from childhood, even without the influence of Kinderheim, Johan can be compared to many serial killers who had little motive for their life choices. In a manner comparable to the Joker, Johan acts as a good commanding force of the plot, bringing out the evil within many with his actions, or at least tempting it to the surface with Tenma, for should Tenma kill him and bring an end to his game, then Johan will have proven his point.
However, this also comes off as a flaw as it at times makes Johan more of a plot device than a character in some situations. His ability to escape from seemingly impossible situations gets overblown in later events by so much he may as well be Houdini. Still a well executed villain for the most part, but not without obvious flaws.

8/10
 

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Already posted my thoughts on it in a previous page in response to Hure, but I'll do so again in a bit more detail.

Evangelion is a good subversion of the Mecha genre's many tropes. The father is alive and a constant aspect of the series rather than dead at the start after creating his masterpiece like in so many others, the protagonist is unwilling to pilot it when even the least gun-ho Mecha protagonists tend to be willing to after 1 episode and the Evas actually cause collateral damage and are reprimanded for such, unlike every other Mecha (apart from perhaps UC era Gundam) where the destruction of buildings and deaths of citizens are gravely overlooked. Moreso, it subverts the harem tropes as well, such as how Shinji is viewed by Asuka and Rei. Whilst they do have some level of feelings for one another, it's never done to the point it feels to be just there for the sake of forced romantic intrigue. In some ways, this can seem to be a middle finger to modern anime's degeneracy, which is no surprise due to Anno being aware of the medium's stagnation and the confusing twists and style of the series reflecting his psychology at the time of the 90s.
This makes it sound as though it's a masterpiece, but I'd say it's far from so. For instance, the episode with Kaworu is highly rushed to the point of seeming ludicrous and the last two don't hold up as anything more than weird for the sake of it without the End of Evangelion movie. Bringing this into the equation, the series has a somewhat solid conclusion with many character deaths and their catharsis, though does have many purposely confusing aspects. A lot of the religious themes are also overanalised as most are simply for aesthetic appeal.
In regard to the characters, they're all a mixed bag. All of them are appealing and fun to watch as it's a rare case of complete character degeneracy at it's best. All the cast start off as whole as characters as they could be and are gradually broken down throughout each conflict. Despite this, it can be quite hard to like many of them, even if I can see how well they were written. For instance, Shinji's indecisiveness and Asuka's arrogance can be very annoying, regardless of their justifications and Rei was quite underwhelming until the End of Evangelion.
Overall, it's nowhere near as deep as the pretentious overthinkers make it out to be, yet nowhere near as bad as the haters make it seem. I'd say it's more good than bad and worthy calling a classic, but indeed has some obvious flaws and can be very hard to get into without being aware of things such as the Mecha genre's tropes or the creator's psychology.

7.5/10
 

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