Ssj Vegeta/Goku > Ssj2 Gohan/Dabura

[FeatsofPower]

Why can't this be?

Is it possible that Vegeta and Goku have surpassed Gohan by so much they have surpassed his Super Saiyan 2 power with just their Super Saiyan power alone?

Wouldn't this approach have the least amount of consistency in regard to how the statements work?

 

[SIAD]

I really think Kid Gohan had a power boost at the end of his fight against SPC.

I don't see why Goku would be comparing Dabura to a non-SPC version of Cell.

On the other hand, Broly LSSJ (M10) > Goku SSJ2 (Boo) >>> Perfect Cell (FP) = Broly SSJ (M10) = Broly LSSJ (M8) > Goku SSJ (Boo).

I think maybe Gohan SSJ2 is superior to Goku SSJ (Boo), but not by much. Both Goku SSJ2 and even Vegeta SSJ2 (Pre Majin) are much stronger than Dabura, SPC and Gohan SSJ2.

 

[Kyo]

Only SSJ2 power can easily fill up the Boo meter, this applies to all three Saiyans.

 

[SSJ2]

Nah, I don't see it. When Gohan turned SSJ2 at the Budokai he was said to be better when he was a kid, but it wasn't made out to seem like he lost that much of his power.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Nah, I don't see it. When Gohan turned SSJ2 at the Budokai he was said to be better when he was a kid, but it wasn't made out to seem like he lost that much of his power.

Vegeta said he was “far, far better as a kid”.

 

[Yoshi]

Vegeta said he was “far, far better as a kid”.

I have a x2 gap between Kid Gohan and Teen Gohan, personally.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I have a x2 gap between Kid Gohan and Teen Gohan, personally.

I have a 1.35 - 1.5x right now. 2x sounds good for Gohan “far, far” weaker than before though.

 

[SSJ2]

Vegeta said he was “far, far better as a kid”.

"Far, far better" doesn't sound anywhere near drastic enough for Goku and Vegeta's Super Saiyan forms to have surpassed that.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

"Far, far better" doesn't sound anywhere near drastic enough for Goku and Vegeta's Super Saiyan forms to have surpassed that.

That does sound pretty drastic though. Went on the SC and it's the kind of wording used for multifold gaps like Goku explaining Kaio-Ken x10 and Cell's true power.

If SSJ2 is a 2x multiplier, then it's definitely possible.

 

[Goku9001]

words words words, kyo said it best.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Yeah Kyo ended this one quick

 

[SIAD]

Does anyone have a translation of what Goku and Vegeta say about Gohan when he faces Dabura?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Where’s the statement that SSJ can’t fill the meter? SSJ1 Gohan should be a quarter of the meter. SSJ1 Goku is gonna be at least a third of it.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Where’s the statement that SSJ can’t fill the meter? SSJ1 Gohan should be a quarter of the meter. SSJ1 Goku is gonna be at least a third of it.

But Ssj2 is unlikely to be merely 2x.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

But Ssj2 is unlikely to be merely 2x.

Headcanon. The only time it ever seemed larger was in the Cell Games, when Gohan also tapped into anger to use his power.

 

[Kyo]

We're not talking about a mere quarter or third of the meter when we're humoring SSJ Goku > SSJ2 Gohan anyway.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

We're not talking about a mere quarter or third of the meter when we're humoring SSJ Goku > SSJ2 Gohan anyway.

You, me, SummerSlam.

 

[Kyo]

You, me, SummerSlam.

In the Superdome brother

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

We're not talking about a mere quarter or third of the meter when we're humoring SSJ Goku > SSJ2 Gohan anyway.

But SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta filled the meter really fast. It would take almost all of SSJ Goku’s energy if he’s that strong. What’s wrong with that?

And this Kili Meter stuff is just speculation anyway since SSJ Goku’s power never got drained. If we stick to the facts, Vegeta is calling SSJ2 Gohan trash without spoiling to Goku that he has SSJ2 himself.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

In the Superdome brother

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