Tenshinhan (22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai) vs Tao-Pai-Pai

[Fantastische Hure]

Ten overrated him too until he saw how shit Tao was after knocking him down in the beginning of their battle

Did he? I thought he only said there's too much of a gap or something, but you could be right.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah he said after neck-chopping him that he knew now that he's gotten way too strong for Tao to match. It didn't look like he thought it would be such an easy win until then (I guess he overestimated Chaozu as well )

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah he said after neck-chopping him that he knew now that he's gotten way too strong for Tao to match. It didn't look like he thought it would be such an easy win until then (I guess he overestimated Chaozu as well )

Chaozu in my opinion shouldn't have even surpassed Old Piccolo-Daimao, at-best maybe nearing him. Nowhere near Tenshinhan.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah Chaozu is shit, but Tenshinhan is as gay as the day is long so his sexual attraction probably made him overestimate the feat of beating Chao

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah Chaozu is shit, but Tenshinhan is as gay as the day is long so his sexual attraction probably made him overestimate the feat of beating Chao

Chaozu at-least surpassed Karin, I think IIRC, so it's still somewhat notable.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah, Chaozu surpassing Karin and Roshi (pre-FNF ) sounds fair

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah, Chaozu surpassing Karin and Roshi (pre-FNF ) sounds fair

At-least.

Considering how high the others got, I think it'd be fair to say he's also got quite a bit more powerful. Maybe nearing Old Piccolo-Daimao's league.

 

[Papasmurf]

Well he was a poop that did less damage to Nappa with self-destruction than a half-dead Tenshinhan that lost an arm and probably bled enough to fill up a milk bottle

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Well he was a poop that did less damage to Nappa with self-destruction than a half-dead Tenshinhan that lost an arm and probably bled enough to fill up a milk bottle

That's in the Saiyan-Saga, though. We have enough to believe that he's so much below them, whilst we got the same here there's really nothing contradicting him maybe nearing a somewhat relevant level (relevant to him).

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah the irrelevance here may not be as great as the Saiyan saga but this seems to be where he fell behind the others. I'd still give him an above-the-standard training boost for 3 years, so a level where he could beat Drum or something sounds fair. Still think he'd get raped by even initial young Daimao though.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah the irrelevance here may not be as great as the Saiyan saga but this seems to be where he fell behind the others. I'd still give him an above-the-standard training boost for 3 years, so a level where he could beat Drum or something sounds fair. Still think he'd get raped by even initial young Daimao though.

Well, Initial Young Piccolo-Daimao is a beast, so it's not like your weak if you can't defeat him. Even-though for anyone of relevance in the 23rd Tenkaichi-Budokai, before Goku/Piccolo Jr. we're proven to be >>> everyone-else to a ridiculous extent, he'd be low.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

I think Old Piccolo Daimao is a good spot for Chazou.

I also think it'd be incredibly stupid for Yamcha and Kuririn to show up as confident as they were if they were truly weaker than even post-water Goku from 3 years ago. It'd just be like showing up weaker than 22nd Goku and Tenshinhan for the 23rd.

But the all-knowing Daizenshuu put 23rd Yamcha below 22nd Tenshinhan, so it must be true! 1