The end of FNF/RF

[Pyro]

There's still a chance for Vegeta to kill Freeza in DBS. From what's been revealed, there'll be a lot of changes, such as Ginyu being involved, Tagoma being more relevant, etc. Perhaps Toei know how much they fucked up with the film and want to completely reboot it.

Ginyu should replace Shisami and be the one that trains with Freeza, getting rid of the ridiculousness of Piccolo ~ Zarbon. It's a lot more believable for him to make a big leap in strength training with Freeza than to just not even address the issue with Shisami in ROF.

If Vegeta does indeed get the kill in the Super version, I might actually start watching again.

I just hope we get to see Freeza's training this time around.

Seriously, if they outright skip his training again, it'll be another kick in the nuts for suspension of disbelief.

 

[Jeff Styles]

I am glad Goku got his kill back by Future Trunks. I just hope in Resurrection F, Shisami will trains with Freeza or on his own so Piccolo~Shisami~Zarbon(prime?) will be gone.

 

[Papasmurf]

Freeza was a big joke around this time anyway.

 

[Troyrountree]

ROF had a lot of problems

Freezing thinking a power level of 1,300,000 is impressive when his 2nd Form on Namek was already above 1,000,000

Piccolo having trouble with a Zarbon level character and Gohan having to go SSJ to defeat a Zarbon level character

 

[Classic Adamas]

I agree. ^

From what I've heard, AT wrote a basic script and gave it to Toei, so I don't know if the fuck ups are on him or them. Most likely them. If not though, this is exactly why he shouldn't be making new content.

 

[Southern Gothic]

I agree. ^

From what I've heard, AT wrote a basic script and gave it to Toei, so I don't know if the fuck ups are on him or them. Most likely them. If not though, this is exactly why he shouldn't be making new content.

FutureProtagonist dug up some stuff on this from the peeps an Kanzenshuu. Apparently Toriyama handed over 53 pages worth of stuff, even though he acts like it was an index card.

 

[Classic Adamas]

Do we know what AT included in that though? I'm curious as to who is responsible for those inconsistencies.

 

[Southern Gothic]

Do we know what AT included in that though? I'm curious as to who is responsible for those inconsistencies.

Ah, I know Shisami only showed up during the big fight, and wasn't present when Freeza was revived. So that line about rivaling Zarbon and Dodoria was all Toei.

As for the rest, I dunno. 53 pages makes Toriyama 53% responsible imo.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

This man

Anyway, who has the PL 1,300,000?

 

[Classic Adamas]

Freeza.

Fucking Toei, man. I haven't watched the series heavily in about six years, but even I know Piccolo being that weak post Boo is absolute horseshit.

Ah. Maybe AT intended for the characters to be far weaker than we thought.

 

[Emmeth]

The whole thing is about how much Toei loves Goku. Instead of having Vegeta kill Freeza, they retconned it to further Goku as a character. Goku has been soft ever since he trained with Kami before the 23rd TB and they needed to make him more ruthless.

 

[Southern Gothic]

Freeza.

Fucking Toei, man. I haven't watched the series heavily in about six years, but even I know Piccolo being that weak post Boo is absolute horseshit.

Ah. Maybe AT intended for the characters to be far weaker than we thought.

Who was sitting around and wrote that line?

"Hey guys, remember that dude Zarbon? He was awesome!"

 

[Classic Adamas]

Not to sound arrogant or anything, but I doubt Toei knows the series as good as us. Clearly not, since they think 1.3 million is impressive post Boo, despite the fact that that shit was losing it's pazazz during the Android arc, around the time #19 and #20 arrived. I can look past that Piccolo shit, but 1.3 mil taking out post Boo Gohan is ridiculous and anyone with a lick of common sense would agree.


Btw, Emmeth went from Beerus to Emmeth with a Piccolo set in one refresh. #2fast4me

 

[Emmeth]

Btw, Emmeth went from Beerus to Emmeth with a Piccolo set in one refresh. #2fast4me

You were probably just afk for a bit. It took me about 3 minutes to do fully.

 

[Classic Adamas]

Btw, Emmeth went from Beerus to Emmeth with a Piccolo set in one refresh. #2fast4me

You were probably just afk for a bit. It took me about 3 minutes to do fully.

Yeah. I was watching Colbert. Didn't feel that long though. Are you a time traveller?!

 

[Captain Cadaver]

To be fair, the 1.3 mil was just an estimation on Freeza's part, who didn't know exactly how strong Goku had gotten. It's always possible for his training to vastly exceed a mere estimation....unless DBS ruins this too.

 

[Classic Adamas]

Makes sense, but do you really think Toei and/or AT is smart enough to think of that? I doubt it.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

No, but they might be smart enough to just take out the statement. :elmo