Things Super/GT did better or worse

[SSJ2]

GT really uses the "Saiyans get stronger in battle" thing imo. It's the same throughout the entire BSDB arc. Either that or SSJ4 power gets absorbed.

 

[Papasmurf]

Also there's no ROSAT abuse.

Agreed, but no Senzus and no Rosat makes no sense given Goku (and Gohan if he was relevant ) still had a year left over from Z and never even thought to use it

GT really uses the "Saiyans get stronger in battle" thing imo. It's the same throughout the entire BSDB arc. Either that or SSJ4 power gets absorbed.

Well yeah, but they don't actually explain it like "absorbing the power of SSJ God or some of the other shit where Black or Trunks get dumb boosts with cop out explanations. Plus that apparently already happened in M2 where Goku got way stronger in base than his former SSJ so it just seems like Toei being idiots more than anything

 

[SSJ2]

There wasn't really time to use it in GT. Every time a villain appeared it had to be dealt with right away. It wasn't like it was in the future and they could just escape to use the ROSAT.

 

[Papasmurf]

There wasn't really time to use it in GT. Every time a villain appeared it had to be dealt with right away. It wasn't like it was in the future and they could just escape to use the ROSAT.

Not rly true since Goku retreated to the Kaioshit planet after getting raped by baby and most of the 7 dragons randomly showed up after some other guy lost instead of just destroying everything right away

 

[SSJ2]

Well yeah Dende and Popo were Baby controlled and on the Lookout. They'd destroy the door or give him away.

 

[Papasmurf]

But then again no one in GT is relevant except for Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta so I suppose Goku being gone for that long is a huge red flag in Toei-world

 

[SSJ2]

Well yeah Dende and Popo were Baby controlled and on the Lookout. They'd destroy the door or give him away.

Also training alone doesn't really do jack shit, so there's that.

 

[Papasmurf]

Well yeah Dende and Popo were Baby controlled and on the Lookout. They'd destroy the door or give him away.

That reminds me of that absolutely horrid moment where Kibitoshin was threatened by Popo and Dende you you you you you

I don't know when Toei last read the manga but it sure as hell was a long time before GT and Super you you

Well yeah Dende and Popo were Baby controlled and on the Lookout. They'd destroy the door or give him away.

Also training alone doesn't really do jack shit, so there's that.

Well prime-Toriyama's still had Goku power up after RRA from training alone or by gravity training but that's way above cheapass Toei's pay grade I guess

 

[Papasmurf]

Anyway, I maintain that GT is probably still the biggest load of shit to wear the Dragon Ball name that isn't under 2 hours long (Fnf, Bardock Sp. 2, etc. although Hero's Legacy of part of GT anyway), but its ending episodes (while still a shit ending overall) had better direction than most if not all of Super. And Super has plenty of room to fuck up as it seems it'll go on forever with Shueisha making a "Dragon Room" for it

if I was still an overreacting nerd like I was at 14 I'd probably have smashed the computer from the antilogic of either series, tbh

 

[SSJ2]

Pyron said it well.

You should. It's clearly superior. People liking it now are mostly stuck in the nostalgia phase. Once Super gets old or another series comes out, they'll see.

 

[Papasmurf]

I hated every second of GT until SSJ4 Goku vs. Oozaru Baby so fuck that

Super sucks but the only good episodes in Gt are 1 and 64

 

[Papasmurf]

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I mean these three are the only fights in the entire fucking show I can say were well animated in a year and a half run. You know you got a shit series when all three combined don't amount to half an episode's time

 

[SSJ2]

Kenshi go fuck yourself you swine

 

[Papasmurf]

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[DBZAOTA482]

Dragon Ball GT

Better Soundtrack

The music in Super is mostly forgettable and interchangeable to the show while GT's is beautiful and is a crucial part to the show.

Better Art/Animation

Super's art/animation generally average or subpar with only hints of competence. GT, on the other hand, while not as good as DBZ or Late DB is good... on a technical level.

Better Characterization (of pre-existing characters, at least)

With the exception of Vegeta (though he's regressed some), Bulma, #18, and Goten and Trunks all the characters have either been reduced to flanderized archetypes (Chi-Chi, Mr. Boo) or mere shadows of their former selves (Gohan, Videl) while GT gives them a more natural and better (except for Pan and Trunks) progression. Goku isn't a functioning retard, Vegeta actually respects Goku like he did in at the end of DBZ, Gohan is a caring and responsible family man who throws down of he has to instead of a bitch-ass Yamcha 2.0 who spoils his daughter rotten, Videl isn't generic housewife 101, Chi-Chi isn't wife from hell, and Mr. Boo is the jolly and innocent pink djinn that befriended Mr. Satan instead of an unfunny Eric Cartman.

Dragon Ball Super

Better Fight Scenes

In GT the fight scenes are all slow and have uninteresting choreography (not to mention nonsensical) while Super at least tries to make it's fight scebe interesting even if it's still slow and incoherent compared to DBZ fight scenes

Better Original Characters

The only original characters I liked in GT were Ledgic and Nuova Shenron while I came to enjoy most of the characters one way or the other that Super introduced thus far. The only ones I don't like are Botamo and Frost (anime).

No Black Star Dragon Ball Saga

'Nuff said.

 

[Papasmurf]

Super >> GT

Get mad

 

[SSJ2]

No Black Star Dragon Ball Saga

The counter to this is that GT didn't have 25 damn episodes showing us what we've already seen.

 

[Papasmurf]

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GT by its 25th episode amounted to this garbage ass fight so I don't think that helps that argument either

The faggot song in the video is more interesting than the fight itself

 

[Mystic]

Kenshi is secretly the producer of Super, which is explained by his lack of Yungoos useage. He's rightfully concerned that Trumpgoos will bring the jobs to America and his poor-ass will be out on the streets of Toyko fighting Gojira.

 

[Mystic]

Also, I don't think Super has displayed one unique idea yet.

BOG arc (movie retelling)
FNF arc (movie retelling)
U6 arc (multiverse ripoff)
Trunks/Black arc (Everyone and their grandmother has written a fanfiction about an Evil Goku, even myself. )