Two base theory

[Fantastische Hure]

Frieza? Yeah so what, what did he do lol?
Beat up a Gohan who was the weakest he's been since he got SSJ

As for him fighting Beerus that was right after he was SSJG, it could've been an after effect that faded over time, which would make sense since he hasn't done anything else impressive since.

Except stomp an opponent that can stomp Super-Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Freeza thing.

 

[Pocket-God]

No reason to assume the gap between his 1st form from and 4th form is the same since it's suppression and not a power up.
Piccolo is treated like fodder in Super, Gohan being stronger than him doesn't mean much.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

No reason to assume the gap between his 1st form from and 4th form is the same since it's suppression and not a power up.
Piccolo is treated like fodder in Super, Gohan being stronger than him doesn't mean much.

Assumptions.

Piccolo is still at-least as high as Cell Saga Piccolo. Just because he's treated like fodder doesn't mean anything. The powers have become higher, that's all.

 

[Pocket-God]

And saying the gap is still the same is assumptions as well

And Cell Saga Piccolo is how strong exactly? Around Semi Perfect Cell, woot.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

And saying the gap is still the same is assumptions as well

And Cell Saga Piccolo is how strong exactly? Around Semi Perfect Cell, woot.

Yeah, but can you proof that it changed? You know the whole burden of proof shtick.

I don't know. That's whatever you want that to be.

 

[SSJ2]

Piccolo

 

[Pocket-God]

His 2nd and 3rd forms are missing, there's ya go. See it's already different, you got any proof that it's the same?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

His 2nd and 3rd forms are missing, there's ya go. See it's already different, you got any proof that it's the same?

He just didn't bother transforming to them and even if they are gone why would that change the gap between 1st and true form?

 

[Pocket-God]

Hey, don't poke holes in my proof, leave it alone, get your own.

 

[SSJ2]

He has his own.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

This theory is ass.

 

[GSM123]

Regular Gohan was higher than Piccolo. Super-Saiyan Gohan was leagues ahead and that Gohan was no match for even 1st form Freeza and then you think about the gap between first form and true form Freeza and the gap is humongous.

Those are the excuses I was talking about to be honest.

Tbf he can 1st form Freeza could be as strong as CG Goku based only on him beating Gohan.

 

[Jeff Styles]

Pocket is a liar and cannot be trusted.

In all seriousness, no. That theory got contradicted by the series itself. Goku and Vegeta can be sense in their base form. It's only when they transform into SSJG or SSJB, they can't be sense because of their God ki. Examples being Kuririn can't sense Goku anymore after he transform into SSJB, Trunks can't sense SSJB Vegeta, Piccolo can't sense Goku anymore after he transform into SSJB, etc.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Regular Gohan was higher than Piccolo. Super-Saiyan Gohan was leagues ahead and that Gohan was no match for even 1st form Freeza and then you think about the gap between first form and true form Freeza and the gap is humongous.

Those are the excuses I was talking about to be honest.

Tbf he can 1st form Freeza could be as strong as CG Goku based only on him beating Gohan.

But regular Gohan is already >> Piccolo.

 

[GSM123]

But regular Gohan is already >> Piccolo.

So is CG Goku tho. Trunks said a trained version of this Gohan was still weaker than he used to be, so FnF Gohan is trash compared to CG Gohan.

 

[Animelover5487]

Yeah, Base Saiyans > Piccolo was kind of implied in the Boo arc as well. Perhaps Piccolo's ROSAT trip was retconned or he just didn't gain that much power from it and the Cell Juniors were tooling him just as bad as the humans.

I mean it's not a theory I am completely against. The only real implication in the manga of Piccolo being relative to SSJ Vegeta/Trunks is a manga cover of him standing with them while the humans and a tired SSJ Goku are knocked out.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

What do you think of it? Power scaling problem solve or shitty fan theory?

I support this theory.

 

[Spiral-Force]

Didn't Base Goku stomp Copy Vegeta?

The copy had the same battle power as the real Vegeta, so the base fight was quite close and remained that way after they went blue, until Monaka destroyed the Commeson's core, which gave Goku an opening to finish him off.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

But regular Gohan is already >> Piccolo.

So is CG Goku tho. Trunks said a trained version of this Gohan was still weaker than he used to be, so FnF Gohan is trash compared to CG Gohan.

So you do believe Base Goku from the Cell Games is higher than Cell-Games Piccolo?

 

[GSM123]

So you do believe Base Goku from the Cell Games is higher than Cell-Games Piccolo?

Yes. I think Post Rosat Piccolo isn't shit nowadays.