Vegetto being as strong as Beerus is crap.

[Keedounan]

By the multipliers provided in the Daizenshuu Vegetto by rights wouldn't even be stronger than 40% of Beerus. Which, funnily enough still goes well with Toriyama's statement of Goku and Vegeta not surpassing Beerus.

It's in the SEG though. Anyways...

SSJB Vegetto: SSJB Goku x SSJB Vegeta according to the guide, right ?

SSJ Goku (Namek) is at 150 million BL according to the Daizenshuu. I personally have him more than that, but let's keep that for the sake of your guide-argument.

Knowing that a hypothetical SSJ3 Goku (Namek arc) is over 1 billion BP, it's pretty obvious that SSJB Goku's power by the time of the Black arc should be above the hundreds of billions BP (perhaps even in the trillions), as well as Vegeta, who has pretty much the same strength (barring Kaioken).

So, unless you have Beerus literally over hundred billions of times stronger than Goku SSJB and Vegeta SSJB, Vegetto Blue is far, FAR more powerful than Beerus according to the guide.

Fuck then... 2

There's more guides than the Daizenshuu?

You mean, aside from the aforementionned SEG (Super Exciting Guide) ? Sure, there are others , though less famous, so I don't know the titles. And IIRC, there was only a GT guide which states that Gogeta SSJ4 is a few dozens of times stronger than Goku and Vegeta. Nothing else on potara fusion, though.

 

[ahill1]

Gog, your OP would make sense if you said Vegetto should be way stronger than Beerus, and him being weaker or slightly stronger doesn't make sense. But you mentioned the Potara's multiplier according to the SEG and yet thought Vegetto shouldn't even be close of Beerus? That's way I went "huh?". You build up Vegetto to be someone awesome and yet your conclusion is "Vegetto should be <<<<< Beerus".

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Gog, your OP would make sense if you said Vegetto should be way stronger than Beerus, and him being weaker or slightly stronger doesn't make sense. But you mentioned the Potara's multiplier according to the SEG and yet thought Vegetto shouldn't even be close of Beerus? That's way I went "huh?". You build up Vegetto to be someone awesome and yet your conclusion is "Vegetto should be <<<<< Beerus".

It may have escaped your notice,but.....That guy is just trolling with us

 

[ChulpaBatman]

Vegetto should be more powerful than Beerus which means the cat gets spanked. It does not matter anyways. Beerus does not do shit anyways. He sits around, bitches and then eats. Just like a cat...damn.

 

[ChulpaBatman]

Vegetto should be more powerful than Beerus which means the cat gets spanked. It does not matter anyways. Beerus does not do shit anyways. He sits around, bitches and then eats. Just like a cat...damn.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Mortals will never surpass Hakaishin as it should be. All the strongest fighters in DBZ always been surpassed easily by plot and the ceiling keeps getting higher and higher but this time Hakaishin is the ceiling and no mortals should surpass it.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

It may have escaped your notice,but.....That guy is just trolling with us

I actually wasn't.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Mortals will never surpass Hakaishin as it should be. All the strongest fighters in DBZ always been surpassed easily by plot and the ceiling keeps getting higher and higher but this time Hakaishin is the ceiling and no mortals should surpass it.

Except AT kind-of hinted it will happen anyway, when he said sometime ago he has no plans for them to surpass Bills anytime soon. So the potential is still there in the future for it to happen and considering what I know I assume they most likely will surpass him.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Mortals will never surpass Hakaishin as it should be. All the strongest fighters in DBZ always been surpassed easily by plot and the ceiling keeps getting higher and higher but this time Hakaishin is the ceiling and no mortals should surpass it.

Except AT kind-of hinted it will happen anyway, when he said sometime ago he has no plans for them to surpass Bills anytime soon. So the potential is still there in the future for it to happen and considering what I know I assume they most likely will surpass him.

Of course they will surpass Beerus but what I'm saying was it shouldn't be that easy like how everyone [except for Humans] surpassed Freeza after 3 years of training which is bullshit where these PL purists tend to ignore how ridiculous it was. So I have no problem for Beerus being stronger than the individual Saiyans despite with their god training because that makes the Hakaishin level so special.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Mortals will never surpass Hakaishin as it should be. All the strongest fighters in DBZ always been surpassed easily by plot and the ceiling keeps getting higher and higher but this time Hakaishin is the ceiling and no mortals should surpass it.

Except AT kind-of hinted it will happen anyway, when he said sometime ago he has no plans for them to surpass Bills anytime soon. So the potential is still there in the future for it to happen and considering what I know I assume they most likely will surpass him.

Of course they will surpass Beerus but what I'm saying was it shouldn't be that easy like how everyone [except for Humans] surpassed Freeza after 3 years of training which is bullshit where these PL purists tend to ignore how ridiculous it was. So I have no problem for Beerus being stronger than the individual Saiyans despite with their god training because that makes the Hakaishin level so special.

You said mortals will never surpass Bills. Quite definitive.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Except AT kind-of hinted it will happen anyway, when he said sometime ago he has no plans for them to surpass Bills anytime soon. So the potential is still there in the future for it to happen and considering what I know I assume they most likely will surpass him.

Of course they will surpass Beerus but what I'm saying was it shouldn't be that easy like how everyone [except for Humans] surpassed Freeza after 3 years of training which is bullshit where these PL purists tend to ignore how ridiculous it was. So I have no problem for Beerus being stronger than the individual Saiyans despite with their god training because that makes the Hakaishin level so special.

You said mortals will never surpass Bills. Quite definitive.

I shouldn't have said ''never'' but ''shouldn't''.

 

[Keedounan]

Gog, your OP would make sense if you said Vegetto should be way stronger than Beerus, and him being weaker or slightly stronger doesn't make sense. But you mentioned the Potara's multiplier according to the SEG and yet thought Vegetto shouldn't even be close of Beerus? That's way I went "huh?". You build up Vegetto to be someone awesome and yet your conclusion is "Vegetto should be <<<<< Beerus".

It may have escaped your notice,but.....That guy is just trolling with us

He wasn't actually.