Vegetto vs Gokhan

[p123]

It's that time again. Who will win the ultimate fusion battle?

 

[SSJ2]

Gokhan may win in Base.

 

[Papasmurf]

Can't consider Vegetto superior no matter how much I overrate the rival boost to be honest.

 

[Six Trails]

Gokhan stomps. I personally don't place Base Vegetto any higher than Ultimate Gohan.

 

[p123]

I have a hard time imagining Base Vegetto being greatly superior to Buutenks as well. I'd like to boost Vegetto up as much as possible, but realistically, he's complete, utter trash when placed next to Gokhan imo.

 

[SSJ2]

If you have a small SSJ multiplier for fusions, it's easy to get Base Vegetto > SSJ3 Gogeta even. But SSJ Vegetto only tops out around 4x Gohan Boo imo.

 

[p123]

Do you really think Potara is intended to make the same fusions Base Power superior to their Metamoran Super Saiyan 3 power?

Hasn't that always felt wrong, to everyone?

 

[SSJ2]

I don't see why not. Potara is meant to be the way to fuse, and it's vastly superior.

There is also the issue of whether or not the Metamoran version receives a rival boost.

 

[Six Trails]

Which it likely doesn't.

 

[SSJ2]

Agreed, which only makes it easier to have Base Potara > SSJ3 Metamoran.

 

[p123]

I don't think Potara was meant to be the that powerful. I mean, we do have KibitoShin as proof of that. Potara wasn't able to even bring him up to Vegeta's level most likely. So I don't think Potara is as good as it's hopped up to be.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

My formula applies the fusion's multiplier to the weakest PL, so, either he fuses with Vegeta or Gohan, the
result is the same, unless Vegeta also gives some rival boost.

 

[p123]

Fair enough, so you have Base Vegetto >> Buutenks as well?

 

[SSJ2]

I don't think Potara was meant to be the that powerful. I mean, we do have KibitoShin as proof of that. Potara wasn't able to even bring him up to Vegeta's level most likely. So I don't think Potara is as good as it's hopped up to be.

Yeah, but for a guy who I believe to be Android Arc SSJ Vegeta tier, and his assistant who's even weaker, that is a major increase.

 

[ahill1]

Vegetto SSJ > Gokhan base ~ Boohan > Gogeta SSJ3 > Bootenks > Ultimate Gohan > Super Boo > Gotenks SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ = Vegetto base IMO.

 

[p123]

Well how strong is Base Goten in comparison to the Gods? There must be a massive difference no? Since Base Potara > SSJ3 Metamoran, that would have to mean that

Base Goten > SSJ3 Kaioshin / Kibito


More or less don't it?

 

[SSJ2]

You've lost me.

 

[p123]

1) Base Potara > SSJ3 Metamoran right?
2) Base Gotenks Pre > Majin Vegeta > KibitoShin right?

Do you know how massively superior Goten and Trunks have to be over Kaioshin and Kibito to make this work? Goten and Trunks have to be like Gods compared to Kibito and Kaioshin, in base to make this work.

Let's make it as easy as possible on you. Do you at least have Base Goten >>> a hypothetical Super Saiyan 3 Kibito?

 

[SSJ2]

I don't know why the thought of a hypothetical SSJ3 Kibito made me laugh so hard.

Let's see...

For reference, I have Kaioshin at 500,000,000, Kibito would likely be 150,000,000.

I've got Base Goten at 1,800,000,000.

 

[ahill1]

I used to have Kibito around Goku SSJ (yardrat), and Goten base around Android #18. So Kibito SS3 would be stronger than Goten base.